Carthage is doing something, sweet.

[PantsToucher]

Yes it is true, for the first time ever Carthage is doing something on mainland Europe. I haven't been interfering at all, as I'm playing as Baktria to up my skills before having another go as my boys the Getai, and Carthage rolled over the Iberian tribes and took all of Iberia. Now they have pushed into western gaul along the coast, and are fighting the two gaulish nations. The germans are coming from the north and have gotten to the alps and are fighting the Romans, who are fighting pretty much everyone but Carthage who they allied with. Pretty cool stuff, I wish i was closer to the action.

Anyone else have their own unique campaign happenings? I was pretty surprised when my spy got over to Italy and saw Carthage's armies in Gaul.

[Dooz]

Might you post a screenshot? I'd love to actually see that .

[NeoSpartan]

Oh man that sounds awesome.

In my campain as the Aedui Carthage, Iberia, and Sweboz ain't doing S !!!
So the Romans got tired of me paying them $300 tributes and decided to go to war with me. Now I have the 1-full stack army I can afford to maintian/retrain keeping the Romans off while sacking thier nearby towns. And I've allied with Iberia, Carthege, Sweboz, and Dacia.


WHEN IS THE 1st PUNIC WAR GOING TO START!!!!!!!!!! (its already 250+ BC)

[Avicenna]

Same as my campaign Neo!

The Iberians are the richest single faction, but they just seem to be staying in the same place, not doing much at all.

[Trithemius]

Might you post a screenshot? I'd love to actually see that .

Seconded, I'd love a screenshot of this. Carthage is pretty quiet in my games.

[PantsToucher]

Well, I'll try and get a screeny up eventually, I have examens all week so I don't have any time to spare playing EB. So instead I exiled myself from my Rome TW disk so I wouldn't waste time playing, so I can't start up my campaign right now. There isn't really that much cool that a picture would show, just a big white Iberia.

[soibean]

I cant honestly think of a time when the AI did anything extraordinary like carthage expanding on the mainland... I did have the Epeirotes launch a sea invasions on my Romans once which caught me by surprise but thats about it

The AI seems to be very passive unless you attack them first, then the 30k a turn they get can really get to you after awhile.

[Cadwalader]

I'm playing as macedon, and Carthaginians are (more or less) invading italy. That's cool.

[stalin]

It is 258bc I have taken Carthage (defended by 4 units). To my shock i discovered that all the neighboring cities have MIC 5 and are churning out elites like mad. Carthage owns the battlefield, only through sheer numbers I can stay on the continent. I am producing my principes and hastati as quick as I can (I use only the infantry) but they are going to grind me down cos they are allied to all my neighbours. Oh yes and they own Egypt all the way to jerusalem.

[Atreidis]

In RTW when I was playing as the Greek Cities the Brutii landed two full stack armies in Athens. Note that I had driven them away from the Balkans.

[NeoSpartan]

OK so I restarted my Aedui campain on H/H and now I took all of Gaulia, Germania, Italy, and Sicilly. So I decided to take on Carthege just for the Hell it. I wanted to see a Clash between Celts and Carthagininas.

BUT as the other guy said Carthege has MIC5 and putting out TOP NOTCH units. And man, those fine, upstanding combatants - Moderator - are hard to kill.

I think the HOT desert is affecting the strengh of my Celts. Does that happen????

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Maybe marching through it is affecting you more and making them have bad morale (if the general is really worn out). But that is something that would have happened, so it's good not to try and avoid it by just using captain-led armies.

The AI will always go for the MIC upgrades quicker than the human player will. That's one incentive though to take their cities from them.

[O'ETAIPOS]

I think the HOT desert is affecting the strengh of my Celts. Does that happen????

It is possible as stats file has place for bonuses based on battlefield (snow, wood, desert and one more) they are probably more powerful in desert than in other climates while celts without these bonuses have more problems

[sedlacekj]

I played an Iberia campain recently, and I was at war pretty soon with Karth-Hadast. I stopped a few of their incursions, and then Rome asked me to be an ally. I needed the money and bargained for more and finally accepted once the price was right. Next turn, Rome takes a city adjacent to me that I was marching on. That made me mad, so I attacked the city after the 4 unit Roman army was inside and took it for myself. Rome had been at war with both gaullic factions and carthage up to this point. Within two turns Rome secured alliances with Aedui, Avernii, and Carthage. Now I had to fight everyone. I thought that this was a unique diplomatic situation. Any thoughts?

[NeoSpartan]

It will happen in VH or H campain difficulty, so its best that you have secure alliances and destroy the factions you are at war with quickly. Oh and anohter thing, ROME is a DANGEROUS ALLIE.

As long as they are far they are GOOD. But the second they are next to your borders, you must prepare yourself for a Future Conflict. However, you can your time by sending $ to Romes enemies, and Not Starting Problems with them.


Oh by the way Moderator, (my previous post)
"And man, those fine, upstanding combatants - Moderator - are hard to kill."

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, I thought I could get away with what I wrote. LOL!!!!!!!!! My fault man, my fault.......

[The Spartan (Returns)]

hahaha! thats not impressive imo. in vanila RTW (Tiberius you already heard this) Carthage (medium campaign diff.) took over all of iberia and africa. and is at war with egypt. in iberia the carthaginian armies had elephants in each army (amoured or war) and had poeni and sacred band inf. did i mention everytime you kill an army another shows up? (its like ten stacks then they grow ans grow)

[The Spartan (Returns)]

double post

[sedlacekj]

Oh and anohter thing, ROME is a DANGEROUS ALLIE.

That's why I attacked them right after the alliance. I took the money first and the roman city on the next turn. I don't trust them a bit. I did not mind the offer and the cash though.

[Avicenna]

Hmm, Carthage has done a little special something in my campaign too: there are Carthaginian armies in Cilicia.



Anyone know how? There's no nearby Carthaginian fleet, and I doubt they could sail from North-west Africa to Cilicia without getting sunk by the pirate fleet. They could hardly walk from NW Africa through enemy territory as well.

[Moros]

Is there a Carthaginian town there? Maybe it rebelled to Carthage? OR something.

[Fondor_Yards]

In my pontus campain, I saw Carthage own Side. I guess they must have bribed it, since they had a diplomat there. The next turn it either rebelled back to the Ptolemaics or they rebribed it. A few turns later, carthage bribed it again, and the ptolemaics rebribed it again.

[Tyfus]

I've got something kinda cool and totally inacurrate in my game.
the Iberians have expelled Carthage from their peninsula, have cut through the southern gaul cities and are now starting to send full stacks across the alps into heavy Roman territory. This is good for me as the romans were getting a little to close to me.
I'm Casse and I'm invading the main land through scandinavia and having a seriously bloody war with the sweboz.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

What kind of stacks are they sending? That's cool - but what is wrong about it to you? I love that they have the ability (even if they very rarely do it) to expand into nearby areas.

As for Side, it's sort of isolated. It's hard for factions to get family members there if they lose them, so it's a prime target to bribe. Plus, it doesn't make many core units, so the units that do garrison it are cheaper to bribe. All of that makes for a city quite likely to change hands through diplomatic mischief, but it's sort of nice that it can.

[Fondor_Yards]

Yea lol Carthage got 1 1/2 stacks of greeks archers and levies out the deal, of which it prompy marched back to carthage. Something tells me they didn't get past the Nile.

[Avicenna]

Nope, the Carthies are just.. there. Side is still Ptolemaic, though my spy there is trying to change that. They've been standing there for years as well, right next to Ptolemaic soldiers, and not engaging them in combat. They've been at war for ages.

[Tuuvi]

I've seen Gaul in Asia. Now that was wierd.

[Avicenna]

It's because historically some Gauls migrated with Brennus (not the one who sacked Rome) and settled in Galatia, in modern day central Turkey. That's why Ankyra isn't a Hellenic city, and the Hellenes can only recruit Celts from there. The mercenaries in that area are predominantly Gallic as well. Ankyra can rebel to the Gauls.

I suppose then that the Carthaginians were supposed to have gotten Phoenica from a rebellion, am I correct? If that is what happened, Kudos to the Ptolemaics/Selucids for retaking Phoenica before I noticed.

[NeoSpartan]

Ok here is a pic of my Gaul campain. I know it doesn't look good, I took the pic of the map using my cell phone. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE THE MAP OUT OF THE GAME AND PUT IT IN PAINT.

Anyways here is the deal. I have all of Western Europe, exept Ibreria, and Brittain. I took the mediterranian coast of Iberia, and I am moving to finish off the Iberians.

I took 2 of carthage islands and one city in the main land. But since all I can train there are Numidian Jav and Numidian Cavl, and Carthege is pumping out MIC5 guys and I won't be able to keep it for long. :(



Can't Gaul make any stonger guys than Gagastrae (sp)? And if I build a gov't type 4 in a main Carthage city will I be able to make some decent troops instead of only javerlins (sp)??????

[Moros]

you know there are tools and there is the print screen button to take screenshot...

[NeoSpartan]

you know there are tools and there is the print screen button to take screenshot...

Where???? Is it on the Menu bar, or somewhere on the screen??