Western Civilization.

**Kagemusha** · 09-15-2006, 18:46

Originally Posted by lancelot

I think something is wrong, although I'll be damned if I could point my finger at one thing...its probably everything.

A lot of slates could do with being wiped clean, I think.

If I had to point out one thing Id say it is selfishness in all levels of society- from your self-centred vote, to the self-serving politicians- who lead their nations in walking over others to further their own selfish national agendas...at the expense of enviroment, peace, national stability etc etc...

I dunno, perhaps it is too big...

I pretty much agree.Those are intresting points. Maybe we have become too individualistic and becouse of that our Societys are declining?

**Vladimir** · 09-15-2006, 18:53

Western civilization isn't immune from the cycle that affects all successful civilizations. Basically you go from dirt poor, to fighting to the top, to prosperity, to apathy and decline, and eventually defeat. Just like Babylon (don’t know too much about them though), Rome, etc. That’s another reason why I’m a big Star Trek fan and want to start colonizing other planets. That way a new civilization has a chance to evolve and surpass the old. You can see the same thing happened to the Almunghavars (whatever those MTW units are).

**Don Corleone** · 09-15-2006, 18:55

In many ways, the sense of unease and the questions we always have are a good sign. It means we're never satisfied, always striving to improve. If we were perfectly content and convinced we had reached our pinnacle, where would we go, what would we do? Humans were built to strive towards.... something.

Besides, why are you asking about Civilization? You're a Finn on a Friday night, nothing remotely civilized there...

Just kidding..... all things being equal, I'd rather be in Oulu right now.