The main thread - Pike and Musket TW - MTW2 edition

**Watchman** · 11-02-2006, 14:31

Wasn't Transylvania (as well as a few odd other princedoms around there) for all intents and purposes independent entities for most of the Middle Ages and the Early Modern period ? You see references to them as independent actors in quite a few writings on the Ottoman-everyone conflicts in the region...

But then, feudal barons were often beholden to their nominal superiors in pure theory only and the Balkans-Central Europe region doesn't appear to have ever been very conductive to close control from power centers outside it. Probably all those mountains that did it. Nobody was ever too good at ruling the high ground.

**cegorach** · 11-06-2006, 14:13

It was de facto the last part of independent or semi-independent Hungary with noticable changes in warfare, reforms in all areas etc.
The worse times approached after the lost war against Poland in 1657 and later Ottoman punitive expedition.

About the Balcans - sure Moldavia, Wallachia, Ragusa and Montenegro also managed to retain some level of autonomy either because were too much concerned with other affairs ( Ragusa), too small to occupy (Montenegro) or managed to shift its policy from pro-Ottoman to pro-Hapsburg or pro-Polish it all worked for all this time period or at least for some time...

Anyway the Balcans are quite interesting at that time and one Balcan state will appear, unfortuanatelly it is much more complex than with the MTW1 edition where I could place them all.
Maybe later alternative patched addons will be made with factions such as Ragusa - MTW2 makes it more interesting to play after all.