[QUOTE=Alexanderofmacedon]

First of all we have Adolf Hitler, a brutal man, but a clever man none the less. By leading Stalin into a false sense of security he prepares for war with his grand army.
Not really clever. If he was clever he should have prepared the army for winter - it is IMPOSSIBLE to win before winter in Russia - only ythe armies which were prepared ( Mongols, Lithuanians, Poles) were visctorious, others died.


Of course not...the Germans have much more up their sleave. Reinhard Hydrich also had a way to trick Stalin into killing his own generals.
It is a joke ? A myth, Stalin got rid of enemies using Hydrich as a perfect excuse, besides these men were hardly brilliant. Stalin needed fanatically loyal men so he killed those with too much ambition.



After November 19th, the Soviets counter attacked, but it was not the valient Germans they defeated. It was instead, the weak south flank held by the Romanians. The Soviets led attacks on all sides of the German 6th army (as well as parts of the 4th Panzer army).
Yes, Germans never lose ! Actually they should have use better protection if they thought that there will be a counterattack - in other words - they sucked ! It was German idea to keep Romanians here and they payed the price when the badly armed allies were overrun.

Even when encircled and lacking much needed supplies the axis casualties hold up at around 740,000 killed, while the Russians, with many advantages manage to again lose 750,000 + soldiers. Take into consideration only 400,000 of the axis casualties were German.
So ? The Russians ALWAYs were losing more soldiers than their enemies - perhaps only during the war with Turkey in 1878 it was different, but the truth is simple THEY NEVER CARED. The difference would have to be massive to make them ask for peace just like in the wars with Poland in 1578-82 or in 1918-20. The Germans were unable to achieve that so they lost.

Regards Cegorach