Quote Originally Posted by Empirate
OADN: I noticed the downside to the "Disciplined" status, too. Nubian Spearmen count as Disciplined. Egyptian armies often have quite a lot of these. And Nubian Spearmen are not especially difficult to rout, either. Many are the times I could induce a chain rout in Egyptian armies pushing at one unit of Nubians hard enough...
As one who's played the Eggies quite a bit, I say I learned the hard way that "Disciplined" doesn't count for as much as I'd like. Nubian Spearmen are indeed all too easy to route against even mediocre units. For that reason, I tech up to Saracen Infantry as quickly as possible! (In fact, I would imagine that most Egyptian players do the same.)

Quote Originally Posted by Empirate
EDIT: Same goes for Ghulam Cavalry and Faris being Elite. Those guys break at the first sign of trouble!
I guess I've had better luck with both those units, as I haven't major problems with them. That said, I would never count on my Faris to the tide of battle in my favor. (Not that they *haven't* done so; it's just that I rarely rely on Faris to achieve victory.) With the exception of Boyars and Sipahi of the Porte, I don't trust any mounted missile unit to do terribly well in heavy melee combat--not even my beloved Jinnettes! Not that Faris aren't a decent unit; I just don't make them a pivotal part of my battle plans.