Hre

[Dracula(Romanian Vlad Tepes)]

Who knows something about the HRE because they are my favoutite faction.

[Ultras DVSC]

Probably everyone knows 'something' about the hre, but why do you ask if 'you know everything better than we all'...?

[Dracula(Romanian Vlad Tepes)]

I don't know many things about the HRE.

[Kraxis]

You work at a university, there should be plenty of books much better than any of us...

[Dracula(Romanian Vlad Tepes)]

I am saying in the game not in reality.

[Kraxis]

Well, then we know as much as you do.

[Darth Nihilus]

From what I understand as well is that the HRE is going to have very good units, just as they did in the original. Also the switch from the risk style map should help. They will probably play very similarly as the Selucids did in RTW like the others have said, only with lands that are not nearly as rich. Like the Selucids, they have excellent units (presumably), but will get attacked by four factions at once.
When controlled by the AI the they will probably do poorly though, although that remains to be seen. In the original MTW, the HRE usually didn't do well because of the fact that they were always attacked by numerous factions a once, and that they never had enough time or money to access their awesome troops.
I always loved playing as them because they had Gothic Knights and it gave me a reason to keep playing so I could access those troops. Still, in the new MTW, I imagine it will be challenging to keep the empire in one peice.

[Furious Mental]

Only 4? As HRE I think you can conceivably be attacked by Hungary, Venice, Milan, Sicily and the Papacy at the very beginning, and Poland, Denmark and France are only a province away.

[hoetje]

Only 4? As HRE I think you can conceivably be attacked by Hungary, Venice, Milan, Sicily and the Papacy at the very beginning, and Poland, Denmark and France are only a province away.

Are papal states that agressive?I thought they were more like a 'passive' faction,only using their troops when their is religious unrest?Do the papal states expand like any other faction or what?

[Darth Nihilus]

When I said you could be attacked by four factions at once I was just throwing out a hypothetical number, very obviously to anyone who ever played MTW they can be attacked by more than that.

[edyzmedieval]

Are papal states that agressive?I thought they were more like a 'passive' faction,only using their troops when their is religious unrest?Do the papal states expand like any other faction or what?

Historically, the Pope wasn't restricted with his actions. He basically attacked who he wanted to.

[hoetje]

Historically, the Pope wasn't restricted with his actions. He basically attacked who he wanted to.

Yea,but do you think the pope will do that in the game too?

[the_mango55]

Historically, the Pope wasn't restricted with his actions. He basically attacked who he wanted to.

Did this happen though, that the pope just wanted more land and attacked someone to get it? Would they be excommunicated if they defended themselves?