Early TW days

[Martok]

Don't forget the Japanese language used on the battlefield. .

Or on the campaign map.

Or in the Throne Room.

Speaking of which, I have a somewhat off-topic question. (Bear in mind that it's been a while since I'd played Shogun for long stretches at a time, hence why I can't remember the answer!) While playing my Hojo campaign this last week, I've noticed that whenever an emissary arrived offering peace/alliance, I only get the choice of accepting or declining the offer.

The thing is, I'm pretty sure I used to have the choice of executing the emissary as well. (Goodness knows my enemies get to avail themselves of this option often enough when dealing with my emissaries--Takeda in particular seems to be fond of sending their heads back to me in a sack.) I'm playing Warlord Edition, which I have a hunch removed the option to execute opponents' emissaries (where as the original STW still has this option). Am I correct in suspecting this?

[caravel]

I'm pretty sure that has never been an option, but bear it mind that it's been a long while since I've played STW without MI installed. so you could be right about WE/MI removing it.

[econ21]

I do have a vague memory of that option. And of the AI doing it to my emissary too.

[Braden]

I was also late in getting Shogun - it was a bargin - at a time when I was very "green" with computer games and had only ever played things like Brood Wars or C&C.

I was a bit nervous that it might have been too complex for me but how wrong I was!

The battlefields were vast!
Weather was spectacular!
And most importantly the enemy was cunning and intelligent.

I miss....

..the AI just....running away (though that happened to a lesser extent in M:TW)

...the weather.....why was fog so thick you couldn't see the hand infront of your face taken away from us with the other games. Where is the Thunder and Lightening? The driving rain or the deep, deep snow??

I had hoped that the best bits from Shogun would re-appear in Rome and was disappointed. I will never understand why the best bits of both Shogun and Medieval never made it to Rome.

Why wasn't Rome just a graphically enhanced Shogun with Medieval scale??

Shogun was small and personal and I certainly miss the music - though personally I always felt THE best music was in Medieval (how many computer games would you run on a PC....in the background....just so you could have an evening of just listening to the soundtrack on the campaign map?!?)

Turn system....perfect
Ai......perfect
Atmosphere....perfect

Why was it not just made MORE perfect by adding 3D graphics I will never know.

How upset I am that my PC will no longer run Shogun OR Medieval for some unknown reason?

The words fail me.....

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Nope, unfortunately none of the versions of shogun gave you the option of executing the emissary, though it was much requested.

There is a hidden geisha video that's never played in the game though. It's pretty cool.

[matteus the inbred]

I noticed this thread while idly scrolling down and thought...good grief, it was one of the few games I had on my PC that I used to play again and again even after completing it with every clan. I agree with everything everyone's already said, but I particularly miss the movies, the way the AI really could hand you your head when it wanted to, and the less 'Bill Gates' style of economy...every koku counts, instead of MTW where you're so rich it's silly, long before the end of the game.
But most of all I miss...
'My lord, your enemy's taisho fears for his life! He is running like a whipped dog!'

And that movie where the assassin gets to chop the geisha had me cheering every time...phew, saved the clan again.

(ps, Martok...how could you?Are you so easily seduced by the lure of cheap fake-half-timbered castles with 'Dunroamin' written on the front? Play a proper clan, like the Takeda )

[Martok]

Nope, unfortunately none of the versions of shogun gave you the option of executing the emissary, though it was much requested.

Weird; I honestly could've sworn that was in the original game. (It's a pity it wasn't, but I'm not complaining!) Guess my memory's getting foggy in my old age.

There is a hidden geisha video that's never played in the game though. It's pretty cool.

No kidding; what is it of? (I'm guessing I can find it in the video files, yes?)

I agree with everything everyone's already said, but I particularly miss the movies, the way the AI really could hand you your head when it wanted to, and the less 'Bill Gates' style of economy...every koku counts, instead of MTW where you're so rich it's silly, long before the end of the game.

Yeah, that's another good point. I liked that you really had to budget your money carefully, and invest your koku where it would do the most good. I rarely saw the "runaway ecomony" phenomenon, even when I was huge.

(ps, Martok...how could you?Are you so easily seduced by the lure of cheap fake-half-timbered castles with 'Dunroamin' written on the front?

Yes. (Mmm, fake timber.....)

Play a proper clan, like the Takeda )

Bah; I eat Takeda heads for breakfast!

Well okay, not really; I'm usually more in the mood for them in the evenings. They're great with a little garlic salt.

[Drisos]

Martok, here it is:

Shogun Main Folder > 'Evanims' folder > the movie file 'Geisha7'

[matteus the inbred]

Bah; I eat Takeda heads for breakfast!

Well okay, not really; I'm usually more in the mood for them in the evenings. They're great with a little garlic salt.

reminds me of that bit in the Samurai Sourcebook where they go on about taking heads and head-counting ceremonies...a must-have book for all STW fans.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samurai-Sour...e=UTF8&s=books
Ahhh, might crank up the ol' STW again if it works, it's been ages since I defended Shinano for the 15th consecutive season against four other clans using only my daimyo, five battered ashigaru and nine knackered samurai archers...