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    Isn't it ironic we aren't supposed to talk about violence, yet we are playing a violent game?

    Even more so ironic that we don't use racism, but often pit different races in battle against each other?

    Oh well, I don't play RTW online, but I do play DOTA for Warcraft 3 online, and I'm such a trash-talker, it is so much fun. I'm not racist or anything, but it is very fun to trash-talk.
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    It's fun untill you get banned,eh?
    Trust me Bud, I'm the Major Flamer on RTW, and it's fun untill you and your clan gets banned for the Crap you (I) did,then you realize you should not do that stuff. Trust me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
    It's fun untill you get banned,eh?
    Trust me Bud, I'm the Major Flamer on RTW, and it's fun untill you and your clan gets banned for the Crap you (I) did,then you realize you should not do that stuff. Trust me..
    Haha, that is pretty funny.

    Well I could never play RTW online. I've heard to many horror stories, and if people don't pick realistic armies and use realistic balancing (ie NOT VANILLA) then I wouldn't enjoy it one bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851
    Isn't it ironic we aren't supposed to talk about violence, yet we are playing a violent game?

    Even more so ironic that we don't use racism, but often pit different races in battle against each other?

    Oh well, I don't play RTW online, but I do play DOTA for Warcraft 3 online, and I'm such a trash-talker, it is so much fun. I'm not racist or anything, but it is very fun to trash-talk.
    It is a game.

    The people playing it, are not the game.

    Roll playing should always refer to the game, never to real life players.

    To loose the distinction between the two, reaps disaster for all.


    (and while I'm here )


    It is an understandable misconception that unleashed rage wins in warfare.

    But any martial arts teacher will tell you that it is exactly the opposite.

    Control, focus, and concentration, are what is required.

    A successful warrior never gives in to raw emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomi
    It is a game.

    The people playing it, are not the game.

    Roll playing should always refer to the game, never to real life players.

    To loose the distinction between the two, reaps disaster for all.


    (and while I'm here )


    It is an understandable misconception that unleashed rage wins in warfare.

    But any martial arts teacher will tell you that it is exactly the opposite.

    Control, focus, and concentration, are what is required.

    A successful warrior never gives in to raw emotion.

    Yeah, except for Sun Tzu. Raw emotion wins according to him. He reports one battle where a force that was much smaller was surrounded. So the commander of a smaller force, sent a spy into the large force, and told the spy to tell "if you dig up graves of your enemies and burn the bodies in front of their eyes, they will give up". So the enemy did so, and the smaller force was so enraged they gave battle to the larger force, and won.

    That said, it will win in the UFC or PRIDE too. Send your martial art teachers there, then watch Wandy use raw emotion to rip them apart.

    Or as welterweight champion Matt Hughes puts it "the best defense against a submission defense, is a good punch in the face" and furthermore "raw strength can make up for skill weaknesses". This was before he took apart Royce Gracie, who teaches Brazilian JJ.

    While, skill and control are important, it is being able to do it without thinking, while being enraged enough to get adernaline pumping, that it creates a winner.

    Fights are too fast to plan them, you have to respond without thinking, if you've ever fought, it isn't like the movies. You do not have time to "focus".
    "It's true that when it's looked at isolated, Rome II is a good game... but every time I sit down to play it, every battle, through every turn, I see how Rome I was better. Not unanimously, but ultimately." - Dr. Sane

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851 View Post
    Yeah, except for Sun Tzu. Raw emotion wins according to him. He reports one battle where a force that was much smaller was surrounded. So the commander of a smaller force, sent a spy into the large force, and told the spy to tell "if you dig up graves of your enemies and burn the bodies in front of their eyes, they will give up". So the enemy did so, and the smaller force was so enraged they gave battle to the larger force, and won.

    That said, it will win in the UFC or PRIDE too. Send your martial art teachers there, then watch Wandy use raw emotion to rip them apart.

    Or as welterweight champion Matt Hughes puts it "the best defense against a submission defense, is a good punch in the face" and furthermore "raw strength can make up for skill weaknesses". This was before he took apart Royce Gracie, who teaches Brazilian JJ.

    While, skill and control are important, it is being able to do it without thinking, while being enraged enough to get adernaline pumping, that it creates a winner.

    Fights are too fast to plan them, you have to respond without thinking, if you've ever fought, it isn't like the movies. You do not have time to "focus".
    The best quote ive read was to ....fight when it is right to fight....and then pursue victory with all your spirit. The warrior who walks around in a rage or who is prompted to rage is easily manipulated into a position of inferiority. The Samurai lived in a precarious world where the relative peace could turn into violence in the blink of an eye. We are playing a game about war, its make believe not reality. If someone chooses to respond to a game with the same violent emotion they would use in real combat then they err. You shouldn't treat anyone in playing online any different than you would face to face. Its amazing how people who would be meek or hold their tongue in real life will turn intoi flaming A%%holes online. This is a game, this is supposed to be fun for everyone. No one deserves to be mistreated or berated. Little egos that need boosting just need to grow up or get out. I would love to see something done. The first few titles were a lot of fun in multiplayer, Rome ruined it for me and haven't really gotten back to MP since. Can take it yes, thick skinned, can ignore it yes, but ya know wha? I shouldn't have to.
    The essence of the martial arts is the proper action at the proper time. Not to rage thru every situation like a raging bull. Yes rage can overcome the fear of death. Yes the adrenaline can help overcome bad odds. But consider the movie Seven Samurai. Seiji is the most skilled fighter in the group. He has taken his emotion and thought under control. He faces an opponent in a duel early one. His opponent isn't calm, he uses his emotion and anger to overcome his fear, he fuels on pride when he was beaten and provokes with real swords. Where Seiji is calm and centered, the bull calls up anger and false courage to overcome his fear of death and rushes Seiji, who strikes him calmly and kills him.
    The other thing to consider, and good for life. The martial arts teach to be centered andcalm in everyday life, esp when facing an opponent. To be raged and angry tenses the body, tires body mind and spirit and will interfere with the responses. Just a few thoughts.

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