Guess the unit names! (Portugal screen shot)

**econ21** · 09-27-2006, 09:23

The conquistador is in one of the menu screenshots of a Spain vs Aztec custom battle.

**Ituralde** · 09-27-2006, 10:18

Well this looks like fun, seems you are spot on most of the time.

Row 4,1 looks like a Knight Templar to me, with all the red cross on white. Knights Santiago had Black/White as their colours if I remember correctly, wich would make Row 3,8 a likely candidate if it weren't for the unit size.

The unknown skirmisher in Row 2,5 could very well be an unmounted Jinete, they have the same strangely shaped shield as the Jinetes had in the 3d Preview over at the com. This would also make the units on the left hand, that are already selected Jinetes. The units under the wirting I really cant discern so I can't say anything about them.

Cheers!

Ituralde

**econ21** · 09-27-2006, 10:26

I am pretty sure of the Knight of Santiago - wikipedia shows the same shield.

The unit size for (2,5) is wrong for a dismounted jinette - the shield is just one used in the Spanish peninsular at the time. However, I agree that if you can dismount a jinette (e.g. in a siege), you will get that unit. It's just you can't buy it dismounted in a custom battle or train it dismounted from a SP campaign settlement.

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 09-27-2006, 10:41

Maybe the Skirmisher is an Dismounted Almograve?

**Stig** · 09-27-2006, 10:54

4,1 should be the Portuguese Arquibusier, as that is selected ... I think

**MadKow** · 09-27-2006, 11:43

The Order of Christ was in fact what the Templars became in Portugal after they were outlawed by the Pope. King D. Dinis recognzed their role in the Reconquista and so transfered all templar titles and properties to the Order of Christ. There is a magnificent Templar Castle in the City of Tomar.

The order of Santiago was also present in Portugal from the very start, both of the order and the country so it's not inconsistent at all, and yes, that is a Cross of Santiago on the Shield.

Just for general culture Santiago is short for Saint Iago, Iago being the original spanish name for the Apostle James, in english language tradition, Jacob being his Jewish name.

Tiago became a common name in portuguese by misreading Santo Iago as San Tiago.

Ill come back to this topic after i get home and get hold of my Portuguese Military History, vol 1.