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**Tribesman** · 09-29-2006, 23:01

Oh well , the UN did gone done a report on the killing of the 4 UN observers by a precision guided 500kg bomb in Lebanon .

Not a complete report of course as they ran into problems with obtaining facts from those involved at an operational level , you know those who actually did the deed .
So , any thoughts ?

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 09-30-2006, 00:18

Tribes:

You dashed that off too quickly. Your question again?

**Tribesman** · 09-30-2006, 00:51

ou dashed that off too quickly. Your question again?

A simple question Seamus , what do you think of the incomplete report on the "terrible accident" that the UN has been able to produce since the people involved in this "oh so sorry" mishap are not being allowed to be interviewed to determine how their precision munitions (after repeated requests not to) managed to directly impact on a well marked big white painted target .
So since the operational vesion is unobtainable the report has to go on the rather dubious higher level claim that the maps were "in error" or "out of date" , which is curious since it was a decades old post , that would be clearly marked on maps supplied by the UN to all involved paties .

So was the thoroughly modern Israeli airforce using maps from the ottoman empire era perhaps ?

**Tsavong** · 09-30-2006, 01:00

Originally Posted by Tribesman

So since the operational vesion is unobtainable the report has to go on the rather dubious higher level claim that the maps were "in error" or "out of date" , which is curious since it was a decades old post , that would be clearly marked on maps supplied by the UN to all involved paties .

So was the thoroughly modern Israeli airforce using maps from the ottoman empire era perhaps ?

Ah maps......
well if there like UK MOD maps they will be pretty poor, for example according to my cartography lecture at uni who dose some teaching for the MOD maps are apparently simply titled "Map" so if they cant even put what the map is in fact a map of in the title it dose not do well for quality of the map itself.

Also it is important to note that maps are a representation of the reality a very much simplified representation from the eyes of the cartographer who maid the map so depending on the quality of the said map mistakes can arise when map is used.

i hope that maid some sense

ps it is not easy to make a good map

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 09-30-2006, 01:58

Originally Posted by Tribesman

A simple question Seamus , what do you think of the incomplete report on the "terrible accident" that the UN has been able to produce since the people involved in this "oh so sorry" mishap are not being allowed to be interviewed to determine how their precision munitions (after repeated requests not to) managed to directly impact on a well marked big white painted target .
So since the operational vesion is unobtainable the report has to go on the rather dubious higher level claim that the maps were "in error" or "out of date" , which is curious since it was a decades old post , that would be clearly marked on maps supplied by the UN to all involved paties .

So was the thoroughly modern Israeli airforce using maps from the ottoman empire era perhaps ?

Much clearer this go around, thanks.

Your contention is, of course, that the Israelis -- at least the operational commander for that mission, if not the decision of a higher echelon -- purposefully targeted the UN. To what purpose?

Note: That is a question, not a jibe. Since the IDF has hammered at least one US ship claiming faulty identification, I am aware that friendly fire isn't.

**Red Peasant** · 09-30-2006, 02:37

You don't mention that Hizbollah were all over the UN post, using it as cover, believing the Israelis wouldn't target it. The UN troops were just dispensable human shields, and now their UN bosses are blaming it all on the Israelis. Who would want to fight for the UN now?