Distance to Capital

**Furious Mental** · 09-28-2006, 04:30

I was just thinking- does anyone know if the "distance to capital" penalty makes a return in MTW 2 and if so how strong its effect is? Using the same penalty as in RTW would be disastrous for Catholic factions since it would make crusading from Western Europe to the Middle East so difficult as to be not worth bothering.

**Tamur** · 09-28-2006, 04:46

I haven't heard anything definite. I'd be surprised if they pulled it completely out, though they have said they've done some significant work to make it more difficult to hold together a far-flung empire. This may mean a completely different system for determining public order problems, or mean another layer on top of the distance-to-capital/buildings/unrest/etc model from Rome. I guess we'll see.

**Darth Nihilus** · 09-28-2006, 05:15

Logically it has to have been changed or the game would be near impossible. The distance to capital penalty in RTW was pretty harsh, but with the advent of religion it really would make crusading impossible. I can't imagine it isn't changed somewhat, or else this is going to be really frustrating.

**kataphraktoi** · 09-28-2006, 07:42

An ideal solution would be the creation of a new faction if the Crusade is successful with that new kingdom as a protectorate of the faction who sent the Crusade.

Too bad, there is a faction limit :(

**Encaitar** · 09-28-2006, 08:11

I'd prefer to see increased corruption (a la Civ) rather than unrest for far away settlements. It got a bit rediculous at times in RTW when (due to squalor and distance-to-capital unrest) you had to have 20 units, low taxes, maxed out happy/law/health buildings, and a highly influential governor in a settlement just to keep it from rioting every damned turn.

**DukeofSerbia** · 09-28-2006, 12:05

Only one thing frustrated me in RTW than DtC - squalar!

**Sun of Chersonesos** · 09-30-2006, 14:11

i hated the squalor most in RTW, the problem was that certain eastern and barbarian factions were unable to control squalor because they didn't have sewer buildings and what-not.

**rory_20_uk** · 10-01-2006, 12:23

Simply adding population migration would not only alleviate this problem but also add a touch of realism.

factoring in population in the region as opposed to merely the capital would also help.

Sadly not. But I did read that the types of grass on the tactical maps have been redone - obviously a FAR better use of time

**Polemists** · 10-02-2006, 01:07

Ha you thought squalor was bad before,

This time we have the BLACK DEATH, as a event. Yay for plague event of doom

**Temujin** · 12-19-2006, 16:08

DistanceToCapital appears to be capped at 80%. The only time I've had any trouble with it was in my Spanish game where I took antioch (36k inhabitants, 100% islamic) while my capital was in Leon. That one needed an extermination.

Originally Posted by Polemists

Ha you thought squalor was bad before,

This time we have the BLACK DEATH, as a event. Yay for plague event of doom

Actually, the black death reduces squalor.

Yes it does.

No, that doesn't make any sense, but it is true.

Really!

Fewer people means less squalor, even if those fewer people are living in an open, plague-infested graveyard. It's all about living space, apparently. Everything else is secondary to the medieval commoner.

**Shahed** · 12-18-2006, 22:03

Does anyone know what is the exact distance to capital modifier please ?

**zverzver** · 12-19-2006, 15:12

Squalor effects of distance to capital has been rafly halved since RTW. You can see a more detailed analisis in a post "Research on compagn map" (it is sticky).