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    Default Hundred years war - the other guys

    With my involvement just starting in Age of Warlords 2 I thought it might be a good time to start a discussion on the period and the other factions involved in the conflict.

    Would anybody like to make a start.

    I was thinking in the lines of:
    Brittany
    Flanders
    Swiss
    Burgundy
    Aragon
    Castille
    And finally the French Civil War.
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    I would also include the Armagnacs, the arch-enemies of the Burgundian faction.
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    And there was I thinking Armagnac was just a type of brandy..

    Scotland also played its part in France...
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    mmm let me think, I can't think of a faction so quickly but to think of more I would advice to read In A Dark Wood Wandering by Hella Haasse, it's a damned fine book about Charles d'Orleans. It speaks mainly of his father in the begining and how Charles father was killed (more in order of the Burgundy) how he went to the Armagnacs and how together they wanted to free France of Burgundy, plus that it also speaks lightly of some units of that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm
    And there was I thinking Armagnac was just a type of brandy..
    Armagnac is a region of Guyenne, just like Cognac.

    Scotland also played its part in France...
    Indeed, the Scots fought three notable battles during the reign of Henry V: Baugé (very near a complete disaster for the English had they not been extricated by the Earl of Salisbury), Cravant and Verneuil, where The Earl of Buchan was killed along with much of the Scottish contingent.

    I would also add Navarre to the list, if only because of that arch-conspirator, Charles of Navarre, who also held much land in Normandy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Henry V
    Armagnac is a region of Guyenne, just like Cognac.
    Yes, I was only kidding...
    Indeed, the Scots fought three notable battles during the reign of Henry V: Baugé (very near a complete disaster for the English had they not been extricated by the Earl of Salisbury), Cravant and Verneuil, where The Earl of Buchan was killed along with much of the Scottish contingent.
    I believe the Earl of Douglas was made the French Duke of Touraine, or somesuch thing, that Earl being commander of the Scots in France I believe.
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    So do we want to start witht he french civil war then ?
    Burgundy v Armagnac
    Does anybody know of any battles?
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    Not a region or a united faction, but the bands of routiers certainly threw their weight around during the conflict, and should probably be considered.

    Also, what about areas that contributed mercenary forces, but were not as directly involved as a political entity, such as Genoa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
    So do we want to start witht he french civil war then ?
    Burgundy v Armagnac
    Does anybody know of any battles?
    Battles were not all that common during the Middle Ages, as since they were mostly all-or-nothing affairs there had to be two generals feeling that they could both win. Wars mainly revolved around skirmishing, raids (the famous chevauchées) and endless siege of warfare of innumerable castles and fortified towns.
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    Default Re: Hundred years war - the other guys

    I've got to write something on the role the Netherlands played in the buildup to the hundred years war (probably on wool trade or French familial connections), when that's presentable I'll post it. Not sure if it'll be in English or Dutch, however.
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