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    this is old

    Whos the retard who planned that route through a narrow road in sigle file vehicle formation? One truck gets disabled and the rest are stuck behind him

    And maybe if Texas Johnson was a little more concerned with driving his truck and a little less concerned with being a cameraman and taking pictures of bullet holes in the steering wheel his truck might not have stalled. I wonder if every one of those other drivers were doing the same thing

    Not to sound flippant, but those guys weren't soldeirs, they should not have been there. I doubt the escorts were very energetic about escorting a large group of unarmed non-military targets who get paid, eat and sleep better than they do. The escort was probably civil affairs, lightly armed and maybe even chics. So the question I ask you....would them stopping have done any good or would that just mean there were two dead american soldiers and a destroyed vehicle in the body count as well??????

    What a flippin circus. Any civilians who go over there to make a buck should know exactly what they are getting into, and if not they should have read the fine print in the contracts that say if they break the contract they have to find their own way home. Whatever possessed these guys to say "okay, lets go for a drive!' while unarmed I may never know(probably felons so they cant have guns ROFL even in a warzone)

    Halliburton later fired the guy BTW, for work related injuries. All the contractors need to go home and stop wasting billions of dollars paid to them up front. The army could do a better job any day of the week.
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    The guy was driving fine. The problem was that the engine was shot. Not to mention the driver; you cannot drive a large stick shift vehicle with one arm, especially on rocky roads such as the one they were using.

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    I saw this on the news last night...the almost comical bit was the statement from the US higher ups saying that the escort didnt run but moved to find a better position to fight bravely...

    I think a civillian is stupid to take such a job but on the other hand if you are gonna escort something then the least you can do is escort it well.
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    What a cowardly escort. They finally have a visible enemy that they can shoot at and kill and what do they do? Piss their pants and run home.
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    Call in an Artillery Barrage on my position!!!

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    It's obvious who here prefers to see the military as buffoons and cowards, rather than actually paying attention to whats going on in the video. I'm sure you all would have OMGLOLZ!!!111 at the insurgents.
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    That’s a heck of a career choice! His high school guidance counselor must have hated him.
    Hey it could be worse , there is an idiot from just up the road who was kidnapped but eventually released , his next job is for Haliburton on Algeria.
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    Some people never learn , hey its great money , we got loads of really heavily armed bodyguards and everything ...
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    What ya gonna do when you are an internet celbrity for sick***** around the world and your parents cannot even watch the news anymore incase it sets them off .

    ******* idiots , don't take the bloody job in the first place .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    It's obvious who here prefers to see the military as buffoons and cowards, rather than actually paying attention to whats going on in the video. I'm sure you all would have OMGLOLZ!!!111 at the insurgents.
    Nothing new...
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    Quote Originally Posted by holybandit
    What a cowardly escort. They finally have a visible enemy that they can shoot at and kill and what do they do? Piss their pants and run home.
    Are you kiding me, they were on a 1 lane road, with only a couple soldiers as an escort. What are they expected to do at that point. They cleared the road ahead of the trucks, and from the sounds they didn't just abandon them. Not to mention their was a predator watching their position so I doubt highly that they abandon them, in anyway. Which is still irrelavent because Mr. Texas Johnson is a dumb*** redneck and should have been shot with his parents for shaming the great state of Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTex
    . Which is still irrelavent because Mr. Texas Johnson is a dumb*** redneck and should have been shot with his parents for shaming the great state of Texas.
    Thats not very nice, he was only doing his job,

    the second vid makes it clear that the escort didnt mess up too bad well done to the bbc for another bit of completely unbiased reporting

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    I don't think the even the BBs version shows that the escort messed up. furthermore, the version released on Ogrish a year ago doesn't show it either. Clearly, if there were any screw up it were the choice of route for the convoy, which may not have even been the escorts fault anyway. You also have to keep in mind that in tight neighborhoods like that the insurgents create blockades to hinder movement and intelligence.

    This guy in the convoy was expecting everyone to stop and come back for him. Taking a shot in the arm does not prevent one from hopping into one of the passing trucks, nor apparently, does it prevent you from using a video camera and making whiney commentary the entire time. If this guys intent was to play dead and hope the insurgents passed him by, screaming into the camera and holding it up to take pictures is not the way to do it.

    He panicked. They all panicked. Several trucks got disabled. People were yelling into the radio. I highly doubt he was on the same frequency as the escort, probably only the convoy leader was. So if the CO watching on the predator tells the escorts to keep pushing out of the hot zone, the CO most likely has no idea which truckers are alive and which are not. May be hard for the escorts to communicate that info because, ya know, they are in a firefight and may even be wounded

    And, as I stated before, this guy didn't even know who his escorts were, so how can he be a good judge of whether or not they stayed in the area? If he were abandoned and not rescued for 45 mins, why didn't he get killed them? What kept the insurgents off him? Coalition bullets maybe?

    One thing I am curious about is where they convoy was headed, what they were carrying that it took such a low priority (1 escort) and whether or not the two escorts survived. Personally, as the guy on the other end of the predator watching it unfold, if I thought the situation was too much for my soldiers I would not send them back for the truckers and rather order them to supress and hold ground. I'd rather lose 7 civilian truck drivers than 7 truckers and 2 soldiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorba
    The guy was driving fine. The problem was that the engine was shot. Not to mention the driver; you cannot drive a large stick shift vehicle with one arm, especially on rocky roads such as the one they were using.
    Are you saying he was driving with one arm because he was shot? He should have been a pro at it, since he was driving with one arm prior to that because he was holding a freaking camera

    How do you guys know the escort didn't go to a better position? On the words of Texas Johnson, the vo-tech dropout, who even admits in the interview "I don't know who those escorts were, but...." Was he supposed to recognize them if he saw them amongst the rescue force, did he assume they ran because they didn't come back and kiss him goodnight and tuck him in? Shame on them, killing insurgents can wait! Do you not hear the gunfire? Why didn't they converge on ALL the trucks and kill ALL the drivers, could it be that maybe JUST MAYBE they were getting engaged by these troops you guys are so convinced turn tail and fled?

    "We gotta go back and rescue Texas Johnson! It doesn't matter that we are sorrounded by people firing from rooftops, and sandwiched between a broke down truck and a flipped over truck with no room to maneuver! Get out of the vehicle and give your life to go run for a guy who may already be dead! I don't care if he sounds like Slim Pickins! Get in there!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

    How do you guys know the escort didn't go to a better position?

    Great question. Any answers from lions den ?

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    Here's what appears to be a longer clip. It seems (suprise, suprise) that the bbc cut the hell out of the clip to better fit their story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    Here's what appears to be a longer clip. It seems (suprise, suprise) that the bbc cut the hell out of the clip to better fit their story.
    Yes some more wonderful even and unbiased reporting by the bbc....... What the first "video" misses is that the humvee that pulls off is actually escorting the truck ahead of him. Not to mention on the tape it sounded like there was another humvee behind them.
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    It seems (suprise, suprise) that the bbc cut the hell out of the clip to better fit their story.
    yes Xiahou , they just killed him Oh my god they just killed him, and of course the cavalry came into the rescue and he wasn't really dead as the cavalry refused to obey their orders an returned to the ambush...hmmmm that was a nice house wasn't it , the seventh one on the right , I am surprised the BBC included a nice house in their footage since nice houses don't fit their agenda .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    this is old

    Whos the retard who planned that route through a narrow road in sigle file vehicle formation? One truck gets disabled and the rest are stuck behind him

    What a flippin circus. Any civilians who go over there to make a buck should know exactly what they are getting into, and if not they should have read the fine print in the contracts that say if they break the contract they have to find their own way home. Whatever possessed these guys to say "okay, lets go for a drive!' while unarmed I may never know(probably felons so they cant have guns ROFL even in a warzone)
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    The retard deserves to be sacked

    The "civilian" rightly expects the army to look after it, even if the civilian is useless, the army still has a duty to do there job, even if this means putting themselves at risk

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