http://www.totalwar.com/index.html?p...medieval2/1/2/
Another fine looking unit by CA.![]()
http://www.totalwar.com/index.html?p...medieval2/1/2/
Another fine looking unit by CA.![]()
I wish I had pyjamas like that.![]()
I shuddered when I saw the word 'priest', but now that I see it it does look alright.
Last edited by Silver Rusher; 09-27-2006 at 20:53.
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They look itchy though...Originally Posted by The_Doctor
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I am not sure about historical accuracy, but they look fine.![]()
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You aren't the only one, mateOriginally Posted by The_Doctor
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If they looked like that, I'm surprised the European armies didn't fall about laughing at the sight of them, then promptly get beaten to death with those wooden fly-swats or sticks, or clubs, whatever that thing he is holding.
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It is accurate.Originally Posted by CaesarAgustus
Obsidian blades were pretty damn sharp actually.Originally Posted by professorspatula
They have been rumoured to be able to cut horses heads off but who knows about that one. Even if it was a club I wouldn't want to get hit by it that's for sure.
uniforms of spanish tercio soldiers or german landsknechts weren't less ridiculous (to our modern standards).Originally Posted by professorspatula
Looking around the internet, it would seem that there where some kind of coyote warriors.
Well the Coyote thing is definitely accurate, not sure about Coyote Priests though, I think they were just warriors.
Obsidian is ridiculously sharp, because it lacks a crystal structure the edges can get to a molecular thinness. Until recently they were commonly used as surgical blades, and infact the only type of scalpel more precise is a laser. The Aztecs were even able to perform primitive brain surgery using blades fashioned out of obsidian. So I guess what my point (no pun intended) is that with a lot of sharpened obsidian rocks fastened to the side of a wooden club it would be just as sharp as any European metal sword and hypothetically a big burly Aztec might've been able to decapitate a horse with it.Originally Posted by Woozie
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They were fighting like a closet full of fat people fighting over a bucket of fried chicken.
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I hope they were more successful than those other primitive pioneers of brain surgery - the chimpanzees from the Planet of the Apes. They never really did master that lobotomy thing.Originally Posted by CrackerJap
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lol, what a dumb civilization
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Don't make me have to post a "no Aztec bashing" stickie.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
looks like a fraternity hazing ritual costume...
it's a big paddle that says Fah Q
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Ehhh...He looks like a pinata. I mean, just look at the hood!
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Yeah, it's like the ancient spearheads, sharper than todays modern lasers can get them. Incredible stuff.Originally Posted by CrackerJap
Only bad thing about Obsidian is that it dulls quicker than a blade.
As for Aztecs being a dumb civilization, barely, they were the biggest empire in Mexico at the time. The only reason the Spanish beat them is loads of smallpox and allies. Saying they were dumb is quite frankly ignorant.
As for the colours and regalia, I love it. It's what makes the Aztecs unique from the other factions. Ooh yay another European unit with plate armour, woop-dee-doo. The Aztecs have very interesting weapons and armour.
As for the pinatas comment, look at some of the European soldiers, they were way more flamboyant than Aztecs
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About the existance of coyote warriors and if they were 'priests'
I found this:
"One Aztec god was known as Coyotlinauatl who was honored in ceremonies in which the people dressed in coyote skins and held fiestas."
Here is a Coyote Warrior from a 16th century mural at the Augustinian monastery of Ixmiquilpan:
As an interesting aside, he's a statue of an Eagle warrior I found:
Here's a interesting site, CA if you need inspiration check it out
http://www.balagan.org.uk/war/iberia...uide_aztec.htm
Interesting link there Myddraal, thanks.
The Coyote Priest is pretty accurate with that mural.
Cuauhtli (Eagle Warriors) were the core of the Aztec armies, I hope they will handle them right. Coyote Priest looks most likely as he should, good work !
BTW Some guys here are ignorant and apparently are proud of that - congratulations![]()
Someone's been at wikipedia, I see :-)Originally Posted by CrackerJap
Obsidian is a really interesting type of glass. Its hardness on the Mohs scale range between 5 M and 5.5 M, which just about makes it as hard as good steel (also 5 M to 5.5 M), and harder than regular iron (4 M-5 M). It has to be fashioned by knacking (that it, knocking small pieces off it with rocks). As you state, it can be sharpened to an extreme edge (although cutting the head off a horse, isn't really all that impressive - it has more to do with the angle of attack and the length of the cutting blade than with sharpness). After the spanish conquest it was adapted into use for tools which did not have to stand up to all that much punishment - i.e. which only cut flesh, as surgical blades, or hair, as shaving blades. The reason it was not later used for weapons is not only the time it takes to produce, i.e. its expense (although it is relatively rare, it is usully found in surface deposits, easily accessible, and can be formed fairly quickly by a good knacker), but the fact that it is relatively brittle (a long daggerblade of obsidian tends to break quickly) and dulls even more quickly - an obsidian weapon striking metal or rock will lose its fine edge and develop microcracking formations along the edges - this also makes it tricky to sharpen, as its combined hardness and brittleness works against the craftsman.
Macuahuitl were very sharp. They were restricted to cutting edges, though, were relatively top-heavy due to their blade-setting configuration, and dulled quickly. That were their main disadvantages compared to steel blades.
I'm not sure the aztecs stand a chance though. I mean even if you have priests and warriors with swords. Even well made ones. I mean what use is that against a line of cannons, musketeer's and knights in gothic plate? I'll just say my money is not on the Aztecs, I think they'll be a push over at that late in the game. They may have alot of people, but then again so will you after few hundred years of accumlating power.
They look historically accurate but all i've seen is them mentioned as warriors, not as priests.
To balance it out, you as the occupying power will probably not be able to transport as many troops as you want to the 'new world'. So although tech wise you will be superior, you will be greatly outnumbered. I don't believe steamrolling the Aztecs will be an option.
Originally Posted by Drone
Originally Posted by TinCow
Is it possible to achieve victory without venturing to the 'New World'?
......Orda
I think it will be possible. Conquering the new world will probably give you a lot of money and maybe some other advantages as well, but money won't be a big problem anymore by that time (at least it was this way in previous TW games).
Originally Posted by Drone
Originally Posted by TinCow
First of, that unit looks cool as all hell, and the fact that it's mostly historical makes it even more amusing![]()
As far as the new world goes, personally I never play my games for such a long number of turns as to get to such events. For example in RTW I think I hit the Marian reforms only during one campaign...and only then because that was my intention, I sat around bored for hours ending turns lol. I always hated to micromanage monstrous empires and to fight with elite armies of utterly disposable nature. Since even if I lost them I could just make a new one easily at that point. Which is exactly why I LOVED the Eras in MTW1. What I'm saying is, I really don't see myself ever reaching the point in the game where I will even acquire the new world technology, unless Eras are re-introduced.![]()
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