Shields

**Gaius Terentius Varro** · 09-29-2006, 19:29

Having noticed in Vanilla that Macedonian Royal pikemen got the long spears now(after the patch) I can't help it but wonder: how does one wield a 6 meter Sarissa and hold such a large shield. Now your Pezhetaroi have them too. Care to explain why not the smaller (hung around the neck /strapped to the forearm )type?
thanks

**iberus_generalis** · 09-29-2006, 20:28

harcoded limits, and engine limitations....if you look around ou won't find those shields in any mod for RTW....shame though...i would love to see them...

**Gaius Terentius Varro** · 09-29-2006, 20:37

But the small ones are used in ALL the other Pikemen in vanilla and by elites in EB:
https://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cheno9xn.jpg

**abou** · 09-29-2006, 22:26

Compare the shields to the ones used by the Hypaspistai or Bactrian Agemata. The Pezhetairoi shields are much smaller.

**iberus_generalis** · 09-29-2006, 23:38

but those shields from the pic are normal shields...in a two handed unit...whats wrong? are this the shield you refered to back there??
sorry, i thought you were talking about small shields at the neck, as in the lusitanian neck to arm shields, and the celtiberian cantabrian shields...

**Sarcasm** · 09-30-2006, 00:56

Speaking of which...where's my mask scan? It will be difficult to be any units equipped with it if I don't have any sort of definitive proof...

**BigTex** · 09-30-2006, 06:54

Almost certain the Pezhetairoi shield is the same if not just a tad bid bigger. I believe it has more to do with the color and pattern playing a trick on your eye. As for your vanilla RTW comment, since when has CA ever stuck to being physically or historically accurate, last I checked you could build a fully armed legion fitted with Loritia Segmetea by 235BC.
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**iberus_generalis** · 09-30-2006, 11:49

sorry, i've been busy with the Student Association, and Praxis Union of my universty's faculty.....ill make it as soon as i get the chance and time...sorry...the praxe time is always a very busy time for me, praxating the freshmen kids, getting drunk in the various student parties im required to preside as a member of the Praxis Association of my school, you know a students life in portugal in this time of the year

....it's been quite some time since i played EB, ocasionally i pass around here, but that's about it...

sorry...and it might not change for two weeks, cuz thats the remainder of the academic praxis time in my place....

**paullus** · 09-30-2006, 14:36

are you talking thracian masks or iberian masks? i've seen a large collection of thracian masks, mostly in museums (the archaeology museum in sofia has quite a few), but one partial mask recovered at a site where i was this summer. if you mean iberian, well, i'm no good.

**iberus_generalis** · 09-30-2006, 15:59

we were talking about Lusitani masks, not iberian...lusitani and iberian are not the same thing, in matter of fact they are quite distinct societies, living in what became later hispania, and Lusitania.... many ppl think that iberia was a unified faction, thats not true...there were countless tribes and societies in the Iberia...Lusitani, and Celtiberian, are one of those who gave more headaches to the roman invaders...and some of the lusitani are said to have used some warmasks, that are said to have descendants nowadays, in the profane rituals of some interior areas of Portugal....

**Spectral** · 10-07-2006, 11:36

sorry, i've been busy with the Student Association, and Praxis Union of my universty's faculty.....ill make it as soon as i get the chance and time...sorry...the praxe time is always a very busy time for me, praxating the freshmen kids, getting drunk in the various student parties im required to preside as a member of the Praxis Association of my school, you know a students life in portugal in this time of the year ....it's been quite some time since i played EB, ocasionally i pass around here, but that's about it...

sorry...and it might not change for two weeks, cuz thats the remainder of the academic praxis time in my place....

Ahah, I miss that!