Mafia IV: Night of the Living Mafia [Concluded]

**Myrddraal** · 10-03-2006, 23:58

Surely in that case we should search for an alternative?

I agree, but on what basis? I can't think of any. The first few rounds of lynching are bound to be fairly random, and I'm unfortunately quite resigned to that having no past mafia experience to help me here.

I think it does make a difference on who's side the character is on. Those who have villager helpful roles may wish to hint at their role to imform their fellow villagers, but try to be as subtle as possible so as not to get killed immediately. The mafia know who the other mafia are and the thing at the top of their mind will be to prevent the others finding out.

At least Sir Moody is (pretending to/genuinely is?) trying to contribute. Having said that, for someone to try to exploit the villagers in such depth would be quite arrogant I think and quite unlikely. The same goes for the comments about Aggony Duck and Duck ponds and this being evidence for a framing of AD. Quite tenuous.

The ironic thing (stating the obvious) is that Sir Moody, Sasaki or even myself (

) could simply be trying to divert attention from something that's been said. Reminds me of the first blood test in the novelleta about the monsters.

Time to re-read the posts, I'll see if I can come up with something better

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 10-04-2006, 00:06

Originally Posted by Myrddraal

I agree, but on what basis? I can't think of any. The first few rounds of lynching are bound to be fairly random, and I'm unfortunately quite resigned to that having no past mafia experience to help me here.

I think it does make a difference on who's side the character is on. Those who have villager helpful roles may wish to hint at their role to imform their fellow villagers, but try to be as subtle as possible so as not to get killed immediately. The mafia know who the other mafia are and the thing at the top of their mind will be to prevent the others finding out.

At least Sir Moody is (pretending to/genuinely is?) trying to contribute. Having said that, for someone to try to exploit the villagers in such depth would be quite arrogant I think and quite unlikely. The same goes for the comments about Aggony Duck and Duck ponds and this being evidence for a framing of AD. Quite tenuous.

The ironic thing (stating the obvious) is that Sir Moody, Sasaki or even myself (

) could simply be trying to divert attention from something that's been said. Reminds me of the first blood test in the novelleta about the monsters.

Time to re-read the posts, I'll see if I can come up with something better

Haha, I mentioned Sir Moody as an example because he hadn't posted when I began to write my response. I meant, Drisos as mafia wouldn't bluff because he becomes suspect more than [insert name of player who hasn't posted at all].

I still think you're mistaken on the difference of town/mafia. The last thing either of them wants is to reveal their role. As soon as Ignoramus revealed himself he got killed. Same for the other detectives. The mafia are trying to eliminate all pro-town power roles. The only time a pro town player is likely to reveal themselves is when they are about to be lynched.

**Myrddraal** · 10-04-2006, 00:20

I still think you're mistaken on the difference of town/mafia. The last thing either of them wants is to reveal their role. As soon as Ignoramus revealed himself he got killed. Same for the other detectives. The mafia are trying to eliminate all pro-town power roles. The only time a pro town player is likely to reveal themselves is when they are about to be lynched.

Yers that true. However I'm just trying to think what I'd do with a villager helping role, what power does one vote carry. You can't persuade people of your oppinion by simply saying "I happen to know" or you'll be dead next turn. Dropping a couple of hints may lend weight to your oppinion, without you being killed till you've done the damage.

Anyway you have more experience of what actually happens, so I

to you on this point.

Some questions to those of you who were involved in passed games:
What is this a reference to:

Originally Posted by Tiberius

I'm the hottest mafia target aside from disco.

Not that it means anything since Tib is dead, just curious.

Hmm there are a couple of things I'd like to say about mafia posting behavior, but I'll wait a couple of rounds till we've got some more examples to analyse.

The choice of osmium does seem a little obvious...

EDIT: Mods can see who's using invisible mode. That's what I was refering to.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-04-2006, 00:22

All us mortals see is "Private Messaging."

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 10-04-2006, 00:29

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

All us mortals see is "Private Messaging."

Ahhh, I didn't know that. I'll try to avoid the who's online feature then. Although I know sometimes I only see "viewing private message". Perhaps I only get the name if you follow the javascript? We should test it.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 10-04-2006, 00:27

Originally Posted by Myrddraal

Yers that true. However I'm just trying to think what I'd do with a villager helping role, what power does one vote carry. You can't persuade people of your oppinion by simply saying "I happen to know" or you'll be dead next turn. Dropping a couple of hints may lend weight to your oppinion, without you being killed till you've done the damage.

Anyway you have more experience of what actually happens, so I

to you on this point.

Well with the doctor, it does neither you nor the village any good to know your role. With the detective hinting might be tempting, but it's a far smarter play to try and come up with an argument to protect or condemn someone without revealing yourself (though a clever mafia may notice even this).

Some questions to those of you who were involved in passed games:
What is this a reference to:

Not that it means anything since Tib is dead, just curious.

Hmm there are a couple of things I'd like to say about mafia posting behavior, but I'll wait a couple of rounds till we've got some more examples to analyse.

The choice of osmium does seem a little obvious...

I'm not sure what he meant by it myself. I suspect he was killed because of it...it's never a good idea to give the mafia a reason to kill you that can't possible point to anyone in particular.

Do we have any know Chemists?

Originally Posted by Csar

Sounds like fun I'm in.

Not by spamming!

What I think we need to discuss is why the mafia chose to kill Silver and Tiberius? I have an explanation for tiberius but I can't think of one for Silver Rusher. Perhaps they questioned the randomness of GH's detective selection process and considered a kind of patronage?

Even if we can't learn much from this, questioning this each round will make the mafia think carefully about who they kill...and then perhaps even that can give us clues. The more the better.

**Csargo** · 10-04-2006, 00:32

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Do we have any know Chemists?

Not by spamming!

What I think we need to discuss is why the mafia chose to kill Silver and Tiberius? I have an explanation for tiberius but I can't think of one for Silver Rusher. Perhaps they questioned the randomness of GH's detective selection process and considered a kind of patronage?

Even if we can't learn much from this, questioning this each round will make the mafia think carefully about who they kill...and then perhaps even that can give us clues. The more the better.

I know

I was thinking about that osmium chain thing. Tiberius was a detective in one game and I don't know if SR was or not.