Mafia IV: Night of the Living Mafia [Concluded]

[Csargo]

A dirty, low down, no good thief :p

None of that now. We're all a happy family here

[discovery1]

So Kommodus you went to the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor?

[Kagemusha]

It was me.I killed everybody and will kill whos left. Lynch KAGE!

[Csargo]

Wow this is a hot thread

[Lemur]

I don't see any convincing arguments for much of anyone yet. Not, I suppose, that we would this early in the game. Still, it bugs me that my vote this round will 95% likely be for an innocent ...

[Kagemusha]

Lemur.Vote Kage.Be a friend and let me be lynched.Im guilty you know it.

[discovery1]

Lemur.Vote Kage.Be a friend and let me be lynched.Im guilty you know it.

Why do you want to be lynched? And no, don't say 'I'M GUILTY I KNOW IT' please.

Edit: You're not drunk are you?

[Kagemusha]

Disc Becouse im guilty and also i have never been lynched before.

Edit: No im not drunk at this particular time

[discovery1]

Disc Becouse im guilty and also i have never been lynched before.

You're drunk aren't you?
You Finns, get smashed on a Tuesday, I guess Wednesday for you. Aweful.
You HAVE to wait to Thursday to start partying.

oh and for emphasis:

VOTE: ICE

[Kagemusha]

You're drunk aren't you?
You Finns, get smashed on a Tuesday, I guess Wednesday for you. Aweful.
You HAVE to wait to Thursday to start partying.

oh and for emphasis:

VOTE: ICE

Gah! This is what you get, i cant get my self lynched even if i ask for it!

[Csargo]

Disc Becouse im guilty and also i have never been lynched before.

Edit: No im not drunk at this particular time

I'm not sure if I should laugh it off or take you seriously.

Are you telling the truth don't lie to the smiley

[Kagemusha]

I'm not sure if I should laugh it off or take you seriously.

Are you telling the truth don't lie to the smiley

But Csar my friend are you now talking about lying about my innocence,drunkness or use of smileys? There are so many possibilities that its making me dizzy.

[Lord Winter]

Theres no chance of catching the mafia the first round, so might as well vote for someone who wants to be lynched.
Vote:Kagemusha

[Csargo]

But Csar my friend are you now talking about lying about my innocence,drunkness or use of smileys? There are so many possibilities that its making me dizzy.

Why not all three?

P.S. Don't lie to the smiley

[Kagemusha]

Destroyer of Hope Now here is a guy who can respect wishes of poor old Kage.

Edit : Csar my friend now i have to saddly inform that its time for me to pass out. I will continue monitoring the situation once i wake up again.

[discovery1]

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Drunk, definitely.

[Drisos]

lol! I've made myself suspicious even before the first murders.. I did better in SR's game..

well indeed sasaki it's the same here again: most people bandwagoning on your suspicions..

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

why? well.. I want to survive. I don't really think you're a mafioso, but the chance is bigger that you are than that I am... since I'm innocent. :P and you've gotten a couple of votes already too so it's my best shot.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Theres no chance of catching the mafia the first round, so might as well vote for someone who wants to be lynched.
Vote:Kagemusha

It's doubtful Kage is mafia, therefore it's a waste to lynch him.

@Drisos-you have no defence? No answer?

[Avicenna]

Posting so that it is not too little or too much has gotten me through four mafia games with only two total votes against me.

Pff, only because you left game two.

Oh, another observation of mine:
Destroyer of Hope posted?
(no offence meant) He usually never participates in games he joins, such as mafia. I remember all he ever did was post once to join then never again in the thread. In the Will of the Senate game he's also taken up a very good avatar, ignored all PMs I sent him to play or give up the character and in the usual manner just not gone. This makes him highly suspicious IMO.

[AggonyDuck]

Vote: Kagemusha

Well I will obey his wishes and it stops me from having to vote on someone who doesn't want to die.

[Sigurd]

Hmm, you guys are on the roll there about the heavy metal and Chemistry thing.
Discovery is sure a candidate because of his line of study. I remember chatting with him about his study. There were a couple of others there that majored in Chemistry. If I could only remember who they were.

The killing of Silver Rusher is interesting though, maybe done by someone wanting to get back at Silver for some reason.
The write up is somewhat indicating poor English skills, with other words someone that have English as their second or third language.
I believe Silver got on the wrong foot with Ultrawar in ‘The Thing’ game.
It could be that Ultrawar want to get back at Silver for calling him a poor game-host. Or it could be a setup to frame Ultrawar by someone also noticing this.

Let’s hear what Ultrawar has to say.
Vote:Ultrawar

[Leet Eriksson]

Vote: ICE

Doing it in solidarity with disco.

[doc_bean]

Vote: discovery1

-The osmium thing
-he didn't die first round
-Ice didn't get killed, which would have been a perfect disco frame up

[Ignoramus]

"That post could have been the kiss of death for you, Leet." That is what Silver posted just after the game started. We have to think why Silver Rusher and Tiberius were killed.

I think that Leet and Discovery are the mafia. Leet killed Silver because he made that post, and Discovery is the most likely person to know about osmium.

Notice that Leet strangely emphasizes Ice's name.

Unvote: Drisos
Vote: discovery1

[discovery1]

You people are all aware that my major, aerospace engineering, would require me to know about LIGHT materials, not something dense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmium

Because of the extreme toxicity of its oxide, osmium is rarely used in its pure state, and is instead often alloyed with other metals that are used in high wear applications. Osmium alloys such as osmiridium are very hard and, along with other platinum group metals, is almost entirely used in alloys employed in the tips of fountain pens, phonograph needles, instrument pivots, and electrical contacts, as they can resist wear from frequent use.

Osmium tetroxide has been used in fingerprint detection and in staining fatty tissue for microscope slides. As a strong oxidant, it cross-links lipids by fixing biological membranes in place. Futhermore, osmium atoms are extremely electron dense, making OsO4 an important stain for transmission electron microscopy (TEM) studies of a wide range of biological materials. An alloy of 90% platinum and 10% osmium (90/10) is used in surgical implants such as pacemakers and replacement pulmonary valves.

The tetroxide (and a related compound, potassium osmate) are important oxidants for chemical synthesis, despite being very poisonous.

In 1898 an Austrian chemist - Auer von Welsbach - developed the Oslamp with a filament made of osmium, which he introduced commercially in 1902. After only a few years, osmium was replaced by the more stable metal tungsten (originally known as Wolfram). Tungsten has the highest melting point of any metal, and using it in light bulbs increases the luminous efficacy and life of incandescent lamps.

The light bulb manufacturer OSRAM (founded in 1906 when three German companies; Auer-Gesellschaft, AEG and Siemens & Halske combined their lamp production facilities), derived its name from the elements of OSmium and wolfRAM.

Do you see any aerospace applications in there?

Dragon Slayer, I keep logs so here is that conversation:

Dragonslayer: if I had played games in OUR time my wife would have I don't know...
*** Scorpi has signed off IRC (Quit: Horses seldom explode.).
The_Unlucky_Detective: showing off a lab coat? yeesh. they're all chemically stained and stinky after a couple labs, anyway
Dragonslayer: so, what are you guys studying anyway?
craziest_mother_around: there where holes that let the wearerr get to their pockets
craziest_mother_around: she thought it cool
craziest_mother_around: Aerospace Engineering
Dragonslayer: cool
Dragonslayer: finish soon?
craziest_mother_around: no
craziest_mother_around: still 2 years and a half left
craziest_mother_around: well
The_Unlucky_Detective: chemical engineering
craziest_mother_around: closer to 3
craziest_mother_around: Chem E?
craziest_mother_around: I hear that's really hard
craziest_mother_around: but also the highest paid of all engineers
craziest_mother_around: Chem E's are by the way not real engineers
Dragonslayer: 3 years left? for what grade?
craziest_mother_around: Know why?
The_Unlucky_Detective: meh, there's lots of chem, but the engineering isn't that hard to me
craziest_mother_around: under grad
The_Unlucky_Detective: not real? the heck you say?!
craziest_mother_around: It's not part of the UIUC College of Engineering
craziest_mother_around: part of Liberal Arts and Sciences
The_Unlucky_Detective: Obviously, tis the UIUC CoE that is in the wrong
craziest_mother_around: yeah
The_Unlucky_Detective: WHAT!?!?!?
The_Unlucky_Detective: lib arts and science?
craziest_mother_around: born from the chem dept
The_Unlucky_Detective: gah
Dragonslayer: what line of work do you get with chem e?
craziest_mother_around: anything apparently
craziest_mother_around: I've heard they even do electrical engineering work
Dragonslayer: farmacy?
The_Unlucky_Detective: loads of different jobs
Dragonslayer: research?
The_Unlucky_Detective: oil industry, manufacturing of certian stuff, etc.
Dragonslayer: ok
Dragonslayer: My wife is in her second year of Pharmasutical(sic) engineering..
craziest_mother_around: which is what?
Dragonslayer: I think that is what you would call it in English
Dragonslayer: I am not sure
craziest_mother_around: I have no idea what that would be.
craziest_mother_around: What does she study exactly?
Dragonslayer: You get a master and become a pharmasist
Dragonslayer: the ones that runs pharmacies
craziest_mother_around: they mix the pills?
Dragonslayer: you know making medicine
Dragonslayer: yes
craziest_mother_around: k
Dragonslayer: what do you call it in the US
craziest_mother_around: same thing apparently
craziest_mother_around: I would have called them chemists
craziest_mother_around: but apparently not
Dragonslayer: it is called farmasøyt here
Dragonslayer: you need to study 5 years to become one
The_Unlucky_Detective: well, i gots to get going to my Chem E class of all things. Cya
craziest_mother_around: 5 years may be more typical
*** The_Unlucky_Detective has signed off IRC (Quit: The_Unlucky_Detective).
craziest_mother_around: Cya
craziest_mother_around: for engineering degrees
Dragonslayer: I finished school in 2003
craziest_mother_around: yeah
craziest_mother_around: what in?
Dragonslayer: no ... it is a masters
Dragonslayer: I have a masters in IT

The unlucky detective is crazed rabbit, who happens to be a Chem E. Hmmmm. Edit: YOu may also want an electrical enginer, since this stuff is apparently used in electronics.

[Csargo]

Interesting developement

[Drisos]

Well Ig, it sounds logical, (even though as discovery said it does not entirely fit into his 'major'.. I still bet he knows enough about it) Though, I don't think he would've been able to supress the temptation of killing ice first round..

Sasaki, sorry, I thought the case was lost for me anyway. and in the past, defending yourself has only led to more suspicions and almost all of the time - execution. anyway..

"Reprimanding your fellow mafioso (Masy?). This kind of post has been a trend in the other mafia games, I can dig up examples if needed. The mafioso or person with a role mentions something like this indirectly and it doesn't get noticed."

"I'm willing to bet the mafia is at their most careless at the beginning of the game. I believe that was a slip up by Drisos.

Masy's posting time/Kill posting delay is also worth looking at in the future."

Well... what should I say? It's not true? hmmm that won't help. hmmm I'm quite a perfectionist. if I was mafia I would definitely take more care of my posts.. make sure there's nothing different then normal, and nothing suspicious at all. I was just trying to do something positive for the townspeople for once (after continously voting wrong in Mafia III and the godfather) and do more 'searching' less 'bandwagoning'. I figured that at least one of the mafia had been among the people that hadn't been online yet since the beginning. however sadly 'something came up' (that'll make me more suspicious lol) and I couldn't find the time to check the people's profiles. looking through the posting times Masy seems indeed suspicious though.

I don't think this'll help. And I'll probably be executed.

So to the people that wish to take close look on the game and really do the investigating work (Silver Rusher, Sasaki, more?...) - I was not guilty! Of course, I can't do nothing to prove it, sadly. But keep it in mind... I was not mafia. That knowledge might one day help in solving who are mafia.

Good luck, townspeople. I'm truly sorry for my big mistake so early on... (making myself look suspicious and getting myself executed for it)

[Avicenna]

You're still the craziest mother around?

Sigurd: english as a 2nd or 3rd language is common here, and doesn't necessarily indicate bad english. English isn't exactly my first language, but I'd willingly bet that mine is far better than many native Englishmen.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I think that voting for Disco on the basis of the osmium thing is a really bad idea. Given that he has been killed at the beginning of the past two games, I imagine that if he were mafia in this one, he wouldn't be in a great rush to go throwing out clues which would seem to lead back to him. In fact, if the Mafia aren't completely stupid, I think it's safe to take that as a red herring.

So far the arguement I've found the most convincing has been Sasaki's, but I'm loath to simply jump on one of his bandwagons again, as last game he turned out to be the mafia mastermind, and lead me a merry dance, culminating in engineering my lynching due to my lack of participation. Nevertheless, there's never anything to go on in the first round anyway, so I provisionally Vote: Drisos. This may change, but I wanted to have a vote in place in case I couldn't get back in time for the end of the window.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Unvote:Drisos

That's good enough for me.

Vote:Destroyer of Hope

Tiberius is right, you haven't participated in the last few games, how come you post now?

Voting for Kagemusha is an easy out. Very safe.

I don't buy disco, as he points out Crazed Rabbit is a more likely candidate using the weak logic that he has been accused with.


I'd also like to know what Masy has to say.