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    The Brutii don't know how to use their units, they get huge stacks of Early Legionary Cohorts and Legionary Cohorts and still lose.

    You just need a few Urbans to rout them, put Hastati and Principes (Cannon Fodder) in the middle of your line and Urbans and Praetorians on the flanks, as soon as they charge, bring your heavy flanks in and send your cavalry to hit them from behind, it routs them everytime unless they have velites, you should get rid of those first with your cavalry.

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    When you talk about financial buildings, I do hope that includes roads and ports, as trade buildings only won´t suffice, they need the means to get the trade goods about as well.
    Yes, it does include financial roads but not ports. Thank you very much about mentioning it and I will get to work straight away!

    What are yor city garrisons like? Maybe you can find units better suited for garrison duty that what you´re currently using (I suggest peasants or town watch). For 38 provinces (which precisely? Thirty-eight provinces in Gaul, Germany and Hispania isn´t the same as thirty-eight provinces in Greece, Asia Minor, Middle East and Egypt - the latter selection is richer by far), two full-stack armies are a rather small military force, actually.
    I totally agree with your suggestion. I have too many of good quality troops in remote areas, and that is probably why I am losing so much money. With my 38 provinces, these include all of Spain, Gaul, Britannia, Dacia, Scythia, and 3 of Egyptian cities. And with your idea that two full-stack armies are rather small force, how do you build heaps and maintain good finance?

    Then, what are the taxes? You don´t need every town to be happy, yellow is desireable, but a blue face will do, so stack up taxes a notch and reduce entertainment. Shuffle Ancilliaries and governors about, those with high influence and management shouldn´t lead the armies and those with high command and little less shouldn´t govern cities. Put the best where it´s most profitable (Patavium is rather rich, if I recall correctly, as is Massilia, you´ll want high-management guys there).
    My taxes are mostly set on "normal". With Patavium, I am losing roughly 2000 denarii per year. (it is filled with 10 squads of Town Watch). In my remote areas, unless I give them daily games and low tax, they won't stop revolting. (yes, I have exterminated the population when I conquered them. Thank Ciaran, for your excellent and helping comments.

    The Brutii don't know how to use their units, they get huge stacks of Early Legionary Cohorts and Legionary Cohorts and still lose.

    You just need a few Urbans to rout them, put Hastati and Principes (Cannon Fodder) in the middle of your line and Urbans and Praetorians on the flanks, as soon as they charge, bring your heavy flanks in and send your cavalry to hit them from behind, it routs them everytime unless they have velites, you should get rid of those first with your cavalry.
    ByzantineKnight, you rule! You just opened a new world to me now. One problem is that they always come with at least 3 Urban Cohorts per army...

    2. You said it yourself. You are building way too much and you have a large army that's draining all your resources. Use the army. You are probably keeping it to protect yourself from the south. Well, if there's no south, you don't really need an army, at least not for the moment.
    CrossLOPER, I will think of this, as I think that I need to bring my good units from remote areas and fill it up with just Town Watch. I think it will save money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by theRTWGuru
    ByzantineKnight, you rule! You just opened a new world to me now. One problem is that they always come with at least 3 Urban Cohorts per army...
    Cool, i've never seen that. Mabye I should go back to Vanilia .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
    Cool, i've never seen that. Mabye I should go back to Vanilia .

    Are you winning?
    Good point. This is why I cannot even think about being outlawed.
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    Once you´ve upgraded your ports you´ll realize quite a boost in trade income. Total War game economy seems to be very reliant on sea trade, though in MTW that was way more extreme than it is in RTW.

    My taxes are mostly set on "normal". With Patavium, I am losing roughly 2000 denarii per year.
    You´re not losing money with the city. The city in your Roman heartland are probably the biggest ones, population-wise. Well, Army upkeep and character salaries are split up between all cities and the bigger cities have to pay a greater share - that´s why it looks like you´re losing money from them. The figure shown on the campaign map is misleading, which you can easily see when you go to the city detail screen, in the "expenses" section your heartland cities will have masses of scrolls and figureheads - symbols for army and character upkeep. But you´ll also notive they have huge tax and trade income.

    I totally agree with your suggestion. I have too many of good quality troops in remote areas, and that is probably why I am losing so much money. With my 38 provinces, these include all of Spain, Gaul, Britannia, Dacia, Scythia, and 3 of Egyptian cities. And with your idea that two full-stack armies are rather small force, how do you build heaps and maintain good finance?
    As I said, secure your backyard with backyard troops (peasants, they give you the numbers for a steal price) and take your fighting men to the front. Or keep one or two legions in the back, to deal with the pesky rebels. Towards the end I tend to have about half a dozen full stacks capable of levelling all that comes into their path, no sweat.
    To prevent unrest in your conquered territories, did you pull down the heathen temples and convert them to good Roman ones (the Julii Jupiter temple line is perfectly suited for keeping order)? Also think about levelling (military buildings especially, unless you want the province for troop production) or upgrading existing buildings (roads, trade, ports and whatever else you want to keep) - buildings give culture penalties which in turn cause unrest. I advise against pulling down the culture-specific happiness/order buildings, their positive effects might override their culture penalty, but don´t forget to set up arenas to introduce some Roman entertainment as well.

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    Another way to keep down unrest is to mass produce soldiers from a rebellious city (preferably peasents), which will help decrease the population. Then put them into a city where you need the extra population and disband them, and they will no longer be rebellious (I think i got this from one of the rtw guides on this forum, they are great if youre looking for useful tips. )

    And for future reference if u start a julii camapign again, as the julii i usually maintain two large armies as i start off the game. One i use to invade gaul/spain to keep the senate happy, and the other i will send to conquer the rich greek cities and the rest of sicily. This cuts off brutii and scipii expansion for some time, and gives you rich mediterranean provinces to generate income.

    It is important to cut off territories that your roman allies are going for, as this will make them easy to conquer when you are outlawed by the senate. In the last julii campaign i played when i finally was outlawed the Brutii only owned their two starting provinces+crete, and the scipii hadnt expanded at all

    What im trying 2 say i guess is that you need to take any remaining rich provinces befor the brutii can get their hands on them, at the expense of your northern ones falling to rebellion if need be, otherwise you will be facing a superpower that doesnt look pretty when its flooding u with urban cohorts an ur still using principes (my first RTW experience against the brutii, not fun )

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    I think that I will follow all of your advices. The best thing I can do is start from scratch I think.. What would you recommend me to start with: Julii, Brutii, or Scipii?
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