2 Turks Hijack Airliner to Protest Pope visit

**Fragony** · 10-04-2006, 18:18

Awww ok didn't know that. Weird, why hijack a plane if he already was beyond turkeys grasp.

**Tribesman** · 10-04-2006, 18:29

Awww ok didn't know that. Weird, why hijack a plane if he already was beyond turkeys grasp.

He was being sent to Turkey on that plane , he didn't want to go to Turkey on that plane because he was going to be arrested when it got there .

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 10-05-2006, 01:06

I think this whole issue is just another case of the media taking things way out of context. Just like the Pope's speech.

Ben could have been illustrating that Turkish Imperialism had caused Manuel II to hate the Turkish for being Muslim, you know.

**Watchman** · 10-05-2006, 18:40

Artound that time it'd really just been good old fashioned pastoralist land-grabbing really (the Turks had de facto taken over most of Syria and northern Mesopotamia too after all). But anyway. The point is really that Byzantine Emperors aren't exactly on the average what one could consider fair and balanced commentators on Islam for fairly readily obvious reasons (the correspondance between them and assorted Muslim rulers apparently tends to be pretty interesting in its abundance of carefully worded insults), although they were tame and well-informed compared to the vitriol Catholics of the day tended to dream up, and that there's no bloody way the Pope wouldn't have known that he'd be getting angry results for his little choice of words.

Which pretty much makes it picking a fight for the Hell of it. Freedom of speech isn't the same as insults barely covered under the smallest of fig leaves in an already tense atmosphere.

**Fragony** · 10-06-2006, 11:34

Originally Posted by Tribesman

He was being sent to Turkey on that plane , he didn't want to go to Turkey on that plane because he was going to be arrested when it got there .

Ah, finally I have the bigger picture, which is, that he should have just served his time in the turkish military like everybody else, like I said before. He gets no love from me, Turks in Turkey should obey turkish law. When in Rome, have massive orgy's.

**LeftEyeNine** · 10-06-2006, 14:49

All I can see is pure BS. What is this about ? What is that saying I'm Christian and I don't want to serve a Muslim army?

I bet the guy has personal problems and found a good way to lighten his hijacking by benefiting anti-Muslimism.

**MSB** · 10-06-2006, 18:16

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I just don't understand this. Some Muslims are so unstable and get angry for the most trivial reasons. I just do not get it.
If I was to say "Hindu's and the wars they had with people in the past were not acceptable*" on live television then most of them would not care as that is the past. That was the past and what the pope said was true: Crusades and any form of holy war is unacceptable. He was right. I simply just do not understand those Muslims who get tetchy about him commenting on extremists that carry on the Jihads of the past. What they do is unacceptable and deserves 0 tolerance. In my opinion these extremists that get angry are not true Muslims that follow Islamic teachings. They are Muslims that have broken away from the true path of Islamic righteousness and have formed their own "splinter" religion.

* I do not actually say this, this was an example.

**Tribesman** · 10-06-2006, 18:41

OK matthius , and that relates to this story ....how ?

**MSB** · 10-06-2006, 21:15

Originally Posted by Tribesman

OK matthius , and that relates to this story ....how ?

Because Muslims have got angry about the Pope's visit to Turkey, I just thought that this was a good place to say that. As Muslims have protested (mostly peaceful, sometimes burning images of the Pope) against the Pope's words I wished to say that Muslims are more defensive and fanatical about their religion than most other culture groups and will riot and be more violent if anything is said against them. What the Pope said about the Islamic religion being "inhuman" was uncalled for, but the way these Turks (and some others) have reacted was also completely unacceptable as well. I think what he meant by saying what he said was that some Islamic people are extreme and inhumane (eg. terrorists), but not all of them. I also used Hindu's in my example because the are a prime example of a extremely peaceful religion. However if you think about it, would Hindus be protesting and burning Papal images if the Pope had said they were inhumane, NO! Point made, Muslims are more defensive of their religion than non-muslims are of their religion.