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Originally Posted by Modestus:
Just referring to the fact that we both had slow downs. It was not an insult or anything like that. I was trying to be funny? https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/image...embarassed.gif
No need to sorry.... it was my fault since I don´t understood wht do u said!Just referring to the fact that we both had slow downs. It was not an insult or anything like that. I was trying to be funny? https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/image...embarassed.gif
Well, wainting for some improvement in the game!
Originally Posted by Schyzzo:
The driver helps a little, but I´m still think that something isnt rite with this demo!
Hmmm...don't know then, sorry. Other guys w/ rigs equal or lesser than yours can run w/ no problems. Keep playing around w/ settings and hope it gets better.The driver helps a little, but I´m still think that something isnt rite with this demo!
Barkhorn
hmm...
I wonder if mine might just perchance run this game:
AMD Athlon XP 1800+, 1.54 GHz
256Mb Ram
nVidia GeForce 2 MX 420
...?
I wonder if mine might just perchance run this game:
AMD Athlon XP 1800+, 1.54 GHz
256Mb Ram
nVidia GeForce 2 MX 420
...?
Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm:
hmm...
I wonder if mine might just perchance run this game:
AMD Athlon XP 1800+, 1.54 GHz
256Mb Ram
nVidia GeForce 2 MX 420
...?
Not gonna happen. The system is too old, AND has no SSE2 technology. hmm...
I wonder if mine might just perchance run this game:
AMD Athlon XP 1800+, 1.54 GHz
256Mb Ram
nVidia GeForce 2 MX 420
...?
Sorry mate :(
Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x:
Hmmm...don't know then, sorry. Other guys w/ rigs equal or lesser than yours can run w/ no problems. Keep playing around w/ settings and hope it gets better.
Barkhorn
Yeah... no problem at all, I bet this demo do not represents the final version! It´ll run nice and smootlhy here when it´s done!!! (faith, faith)Hmmm...don't know then, sorry. Other guys w/ rigs equal or lesser than yours can run w/ no problems. Keep playing around w/ settings and hope it gets better.
Barkhorn
I don't know if CA will make a formal announcement, but here's some general advice:
If your processor is made by AMD, and is not an Athlon 64, new(ish) Sempron (socket 754, 939 or AM2) or dual-core, then you won't have SSE2 and won't be able to run the current demo.
If you've got an Intel pentium 4 processor (or better), then you probably will as far as processor compatability is concerned.
Less than 512MB of RAM probably won't cut it in terms of getting any decent sort of performance, but you may be able to run things if you don't mind some lag.
If you're not sure what sort of processor or how much RAM you've got:
Right-click on "My Computer" and select "properties" from the menu and the dialogue box that opens up will tell you some basic information.
For more detailed information on what processor you have and what instruction sets it supports (ie whether it's compatible with SSE2 or not), you can download a program like Cpu-z
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
Run the exe and it'll list details about your processor including that info.
As for graphics cards, make sure you've downloaded the newest drivers and installed them correctly (in case of compatability issues, uninstall the existing ones and then install the newest). If it's less than 256MB you're probably going to have to sacrifice at least some of the eye candy to get a decent frame rate. As previously stated here, the best thing to turn off initially is shadowing. If you're having real problems and have already updated your drivers, try turning all settings to minimum to see if you can get any improvement in performance and then gradually increasing them. There are also some pretty dire 256MB graphics cards out there, so I'm afraid having one that on paper exceeds the minimum requirements (128MB with Shader 1 support) doesn't automatically mean the game will run well.
Finally, remember that this demo is pretty old in terms of game development and the finished product will hopefully have been improved in many areas (including SSE2 support- pleeeease CA, be nice to us old AMD owners).
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EDIT: Forgot to add - I wouldn't rush out to upgrade anything your PC is short of apart from memory before CA/SEGA give more concrete information about hardware compatability for the release version of the game. Not unless your graphics card is seriously underpowered anyway.
If your processor is made by AMD, and is not an Athlon 64, new(ish) Sempron (socket 754, 939 or AM2) or dual-core, then you won't have SSE2 and won't be able to run the current demo.
If you've got an Intel pentium 4 processor (or better), then you probably will as far as processor compatability is concerned.
Less than 512MB of RAM probably won't cut it in terms of getting any decent sort of performance, but you may be able to run things if you don't mind some lag.
If you're not sure what sort of processor or how much RAM you've got:
Right-click on "My Computer" and select "properties" from the menu and the dialogue box that opens up will tell you some basic information.
For more detailed information on what processor you have and what instruction sets it supports (ie whether it's compatible with SSE2 or not), you can download a program like Cpu-z
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
Run the exe and it'll list details about your processor including that info.
As for graphics cards, make sure you've downloaded the newest drivers and installed them correctly (in case of compatability issues, uninstall the existing ones and then install the newest). If it's less than 256MB you're probably going to have to sacrifice at least some of the eye candy to get a decent frame rate. As previously stated here, the best thing to turn off initially is shadowing. If you're having real problems and have already updated your drivers, try turning all settings to minimum to see if you can get any improvement in performance and then gradually increasing them. There are also some pretty dire 256MB graphics cards out there, so I'm afraid having one that on paper exceeds the minimum requirements (128MB with Shader 1 support) doesn't automatically mean the game will run well.
Finally, remember that this demo is pretty old in terms of game development and the finished product will hopefully have been improved in many areas (including SSE2 support- pleeeease CA, be nice to us old AMD owners).
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EDIT: Forgot to add - I wouldn't rush out to upgrade anything your PC is short of apart from memory before CA/SEGA give more concrete information about hardware compatability for the release version of the game. Not unless your graphics card is seriously underpowered anyway.
Originally Posted by fruitfly:
Finally, remember that this demo is pretty old in terms of game development and the finished product will hopefully have been improved in many areas (including SSE2 support- pleeeease CA, be nice to us old AMD owners).
I reeeeeeeeeeeally hope so!Finally, remember that this demo is pretty old in terms of game development and the finished product will hopefully have been improved in many areas (including SSE2 support- pleeeease CA, be nice to us old AMD owners).
Good advice FruitFly.
Barkhorn.
Barkhorn.
Seeing that there is a mass of questions about the SSE2 issue, can the Moderators re-post FruitFly's advice heading it up as something like:
"M2:TW Demo and SSE2"
I think it would be handy to have something posted specifically stating this and pointing out that this may not be an issue in the finished game.
.....fingers crossed for those without 64-bit processors.
Personally I can't run the game at all. I need a complete new system anyway, so I haven't lost anything
"M2:TW Demo and SSE2"
I think it would be handy to have something posted specifically stating this and pointing out that this may not be an issue in the finished game.
.....fingers crossed for those without 64-bit processors.
Personally I can't run the game at all. I need a complete new system anyway, so I haven't lost anything
Wow the demo is a CPU killer! I have Intel Core Duo E6400 and the Pavia battle, with small size units, used about 70% to 80% of the both CPUs (cores) 
It will be a slide show if the units are normal or huge as I like to play RTR.
It will be a slide show if the units are normal or huge as I like to play RTR.Originally Posted by Kwartjuh:
Not gonna happen. The system is too old, AND has no SSE2 technology.
Sorry mate :(
I was only pulling your leg, the thing can barely play Rome, and even then with the stick-men, small unit sizes, and preferably small to medium sized battles... I was just mesmerised by all the better computers...Not gonna happen. The system is too old, AND has no SSE2 technology.
Sorry mate :(
Edit: Cancel that, I got it to work.
SSE2 = Streaming "Single Instruction, Multiple Data" Extensions 2.
CPUs supporting SSE2
AMD Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64 X2
AMD Opteron
AMD Sempron (Socket 754/939/AM2 versions only)
AMD Turion 64
Intel Pentium 4
Intel Pentium D
Intel Pentium EE
Intel Pentium M
Intel Celeron (Socket 478 versions only)
Intel Celeron D
Intel Celeron M
Intel Core Solo/Duo
Intel Core 2 Solo/Duo/Extreme
Transmeta Efficeon
Intel Xeon
Via C7
Notable CPUs not supporting SSE2
Anything from Motorola, or any other CPU manufacturer not listed above
The following CPUs do not support SSE2.
AMD Athlon
AMD Athlon XP / MP
AMD Duron
AMD Sempron (Socket A versions)
Intel Pentium II Xeon
Intel Pentium III Xeon
Intel Pentium II
Intel Pentium III
Intel Celeron (Slot 1, Socket 370)
Intel Itanium
Intel Itanium 2
Via C3
Transmeta Crusoe
IDT Centaurs-Haul Winchip
and any older CPUs.
Help anyone?
CPUs supporting SSE2
AMD Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64 X2
AMD Opteron
AMD Sempron (Socket 754/939/AM2 versions only)
AMD Turion 64
Intel Pentium 4
Intel Pentium D
Intel Pentium EE
Intel Pentium M
Intel Celeron (Socket 478 versions only)
Intel Celeron D
Intel Celeron M
Intel Core Solo/Duo
Intel Core 2 Solo/Duo/Extreme
Transmeta Efficeon
Intel Xeon
Via C7
Notable CPUs not supporting SSE2
Anything from Motorola, or any other CPU manufacturer not listed above
The following CPUs do not support SSE2.
AMD Athlon
AMD Athlon XP / MP
AMD Duron
AMD Sempron (Socket A versions)
Intel Pentium II Xeon
Intel Pentium III Xeon
Intel Pentium II
Intel Pentium III
Intel Celeron (Slot 1, Socket 370)
Intel Itanium
Intel Itanium 2
Via C3
Transmeta Crusoe
IDT Centaurs-Haul Winchip
and any older CPUs.
Help anyone?
I've just played the demo, on medium settings it runs just fine
My machine:
Pentium IV 3GHz
Radeon 9800pro 128MB
1GB RAM
My machine:
Pentium IV 3GHz
Radeon 9800pro 128MB
1GB RAM
Wohoo, just ran the game On the highest setting (super-high, as highest is just a waste of power really)
My specs are
AMD 3200+
X800 XT PLATINUM EDITION 256mb
2 Gigs of DDR2
Plays like a dream, I love the new fighting moves, I love it when my Zwiehanders parry a blow from a Halberdier and then runs him through. Must say though Pavia is awfully easy to win. So is Agincourt, the English are just too overpowered.
My specs are
AMD 3200+
X800 XT PLATINUM EDITION 256mb
2 Gigs of DDR2
Plays like a dream, I love the new fighting moves, I love it when my Zwiehanders parry a blow from a Halberdier and then runs him through. Must say though Pavia is awfully easy to win. So is Agincourt, the English are just too overpowered.
FWIW I'm playing with
P4 3.0GHz
1 Gig RAM
Radeon X700 Pro with 256MB RAM
And once I turned shadows to low it ran just fine.
P4 3.0GHz
1 Gig RAM
Radeon X700 Pro with 256MB RAM
And once I turned shadows to low it ran just fine.
Just bought myself a brand new computer for this game, except for my graphics card.
I hava a Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz overclocked to 2.7 Ghz, 2Gb of Pc 8500 Memory, and a Ati Radeon X850 XT graphics card.
I still could not use the maximum settings. I guess a new ATI radeon 1950 XTX is required, or i my case, i'll wait for the the ATI R600 based card's.
This is definitly a heavy duty game. But the graphics is worth it.
Espjo
I hava a Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz overclocked to 2.7 Ghz, 2Gb of Pc 8500 Memory, and a Ati Radeon X850 XT graphics card.
I still could not use the maximum settings. I guess a new ATI radeon 1950 XTX is required, or i my case, i'll wait for the the ATI R600 based card's.
This is definitly a heavy duty game. But the graphics is worth it.
Espjo
Really you're having trouble with an X850 XT?
Originally Posted by blahblahblah:
Here are my specs:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
2.00 GHz
512 MB of RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) with 256 MB of Memory
You should know that your graphicscard has around 16-64MB RAM itself and the rest is used of your 512MB system RAM(and I guess you have to set that amount somewhere in the driver/BIOS), which makes me wonder how slow your system is in general...Here are my specs:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
2.00 GHz
512 MB of RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) with 256 MB of Memory
That said, things like TurboCache are usually considered bad anyway, since your graphicscard will use bandwidth and space of your normal RAM, leaving less for the CPU etc.
I'd say lowest setting if you're lucky.
Get another 512MB RAM and it should improve your performance, then maybe aim for a real graphics card.
I myself have:
Core 2 Duo E6600
1024MB DDR1 400MHz RAM
GeForce 6600GT AGP 128MB
and my settings are:
in the demo it's mostly very smooth at more than 20 fps and looks pretty great.
Originally Posted by espjo:
Just bought myself a brand new computer for this game, except for my graphics card.
I hava a Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz overclocked to 2.7 Ghz, 2Gb of Pc 8500 Memory, and a Ati Radeon X850 XT graphics card.
I still could not use the maximum settings. I guess a new ATI radeon 1950 XTX is required, or i my case, i'll wait for the the ATI R600 based card's.
This is definitly a heavy duty game. But the graphics is worth it.
Espjo
Just bought myself a brand new computer for this game, except for my graphics card.
I hava a Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz overclocked to 2.7 Ghz, 2Gb of Pc 8500 Memory, and a Ati Radeon X850 XT graphics card.
I still could not use the maximum settings. I guess a new ATI radeon 1950 XTX is required, or i my case, i'll wait for the the ATI R600 based card's.
This is definitly a heavy duty game. But the graphics is worth it.
Espjo
Weird. I got the X800 XL one and I am running things very smoothly at high graph settings, shader x 2. High anti-aliasing and that other thingy. I only need to test out the amount of shadow detail I can have but thats boring. (Up to lowest sofar, which looks ugglier than no shadows)
I even got only 1 GB of Ram, two of 512mb PC 3200, so thats lower too, and a non-overclocked 2.2 Ghz thingy. (3500+ AMD 64 one)
There seem to be a large amount of discrepencies regarding people with very similar systems who are having either good success or terrible failure.. I'll let you know what happens when my download is finished, right now I'm at %30.
System is a Pentium IV 2.8 (I would overclock if I knew how...), 2gigs of incompatible ram (don't ask, but I forced the buggers to work
), and a Radeon x1300pro 256mb card.
System is a Pentium IV 2.8 (I would overclock if I knew how...), 2gigs of incompatible ram (don't ask, but I forced the buggers to work
), and a Radeon x1300pro 256mb card.How do i find what sempron do i have?
Originally Posted by Lord ZORO Savage:
How do i find what sempron do i have?
How do i find what sempron do i have?
What motherboard do you have?
Originally Posted by Lucjan:
There seem to be a large amount of discrepencies regarding people with very similar systems who are having either good success or terrible failure.. I'll let you know what happens when my download is finished, right now I'm at %30.
I can only say that I lost around 50% performance with shadows on low.There seem to be a large amount of discrepencies regarding people with very similar systems who are having either good success or terrible failure.. I'll let you know what happens when my download is finished, right now I'm at %30.
But since shadows are neither important nor very nice, I am very happy without them.
Originally Posted by Husar:
I can only say that I lost around 50% performance with shadows on low.
But since shadows are neither important nor very nice, I am very happy without them.
I'll have to disable shadows next time I play. I admit I'm unfamiliar with what "bloom" does? If I disable it what will I lose and what might I gain?I can only say that I lost around 50% performance with shadows on low.
But since shadows are neither important nor very nice, I am very happy without them.
Thanks
Thank God V-Sync can be turned off, that means the CPU-limit on Frames Per Second is out of the window. That means it'll actually pay off to get a fast GPU instead of a fast CPU, which makes sense for games if you think about it.
Bloom does the funny 'shimmery' effect you'll see in a lot of the screenshots. It's quite hard to describe.
Originally Posted by sunsmountain:
Thank God V-Sync can be turned off, that means the CPU-limit on Frames Per Second is out of the window. That means it'll actually pay off to get a fast GPU instead of a fast CPU, which makes sense for games if you think about it.
No, it doesn't make sense.Thank God V-Sync can be turned off, that means the CPU-limit on Frames Per Second is out of the window. That means it'll actually pay off to get a fast GPU instead of a fast CPU, which makes sense for games if you think about it.
I had an Athlon 2400+ before with a comparatively fast GPU(6600GT) and with my new processor(E6600) even Gothic 2 got a performance boost, both need to be fast for good performance and don't forget about memory.
Also IIRC VSync forces your graphicscard to put out exactly as many pictures as your monitor displays per second. That means if your monitor runs at 60Hz, you will get a constant 60fps framerate. The problem here is if your graphicscard is too slow and can calculate only 20fps, it will put out 3 times the same picture anyway. I don't know exactly what VSync is good for, but it may fix some bugs with certain graphicscard-monitor combinations.
Concerning bloom, I think this refers to edges of objects where the light(from behind) will fade into the object, though I am unsure about the connection/differences between this and HDR effects(which, to me, seem to do exactly the same thing).
I am going to buy a whole new computer just to play this game.
Now, can someone tell me what my computer needs to be made up of to play this game on the highest graphics settings?
Oh, and would I be able to afford a computer like that for USD$3k or less? Just the computer.
Now, can someone tell me what my computer needs to be made up of to play this game on the highest graphics settings?
Oh, and would I be able to afford a computer like that for USD$3k or less? Just the computer.
Yeah I had the feeling bloom had something to do with the softening of a light when it hit something to give a kind of glow? or was it the other way round? Or D. am I talking out of where the sun don't shine?
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