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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahblah
    Here are my specs:

    AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
    2.00 GHz
    512 MB of RAM
    NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) with 256 MB of Memory
    That configuration would be able to run the game fine in my opinion. Although you might want to upgrade your RAM to 1 Gig.

    My specs:

    AMD Athlon 64 3400+
    2.41 GHz
    1.00 Gig of RAM
    Geforce FX 5700

    As you'd imagine, I have to upgrade my graphic card, because my current card is a piece of junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
    Hey,

    It's a Intel,does that help you at all??
    It means you have abetter chance of having SSE2 so you can try the current demo for yourself to see how you might handle the game with your setup... The game should run much better than the demo, but I would really up your ram... Please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius
    That configuration would be able to run the game fine in my opinion. Although you might want to upgrade your RAM to 1 Gig.

    My specs:

    AMD Athlon 64 3400+
    2.41 GHz
    1.00 Gig of RAM
    Geforce FX 5700

    As you'd imagine, I have to upgrade my graphic card, because my current card is a piece of junk.
    Do you know if there is a big difference between his "Nvidia GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) with 256 MB of Memory" and my Nvidia Geforce 6150 LE? My CPU is powerful (Athlon 64 X2 4200+) and my RAM higher than needed (2 gig), but the demo runs very poorly on my comp(even rome needs many of the settings put to low to play with large units). I suspect my graphics card is the culprit, and another poster said I'd need a new one back before the demo came out.

    I plan to buy a new one but I don't really know the difference between the numbers, except that the first number(6, 7, etc.) is the "generation" and past that the higher the better. Is there any connection between the distance between them and the dif in their specs(6150-6200 small dif, but 6200-6800 larger), or are the numbers just a convenient way to tell which ones are newer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimfan40
    Do you know if there is a big difference between his "Nvidia GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) with 256 MB of Memory" and my Nvidia Geforce 6150 LE? My CPU is powerful (Athlon 64 X2 4200+) and my RAM higher than needed (2 gig), but the demo runs very poorly on my comp(even rome needs many of the settings put to low to play with large units). I suspect my graphics card is the culprit, and another poster said I'd need a new one back before the demo came out.

    I plan to buy a new one but I don't really know the difference between the numbers, except that the first number(6, 7, etc.) is the "generation" and past that the higher the better. Is there any connection between the distance between them and the dif in their specs(6150-6200 small dif, but 6200-6800 larger), or are the numbers just a convenient way to tell which ones are newer?

    That's weird. Because with my Geforce FX 5700, I can play RTW at near high settings just fine. Have you tried updating to the latest drivers? Or maybe it's just a compatibility problem with your dual-core processor.

    As far as those two cards are concerned, I don't think there is that huge of a difference between the 6200 and the 6150LE. If you want to upgrade your card, go with the 7 series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius
    That configuration would be able to run the game fine in my opinion. Although you might want to upgrade your RAM to 1 Gig.

    My specs:

    AMD Athlon 64 3400+
    2.41 GHz
    1.00 Gig of RAM
    Geforce FX 5700

    As you'd imagine, I have to upgrade my graphic card, because my current card is a piece of junk.
    I agree with both your comments Max, with slightly more emphasis on the ram... see at the bottom below.

    We use a 5500OC to run RTW on medium settings with no problem, so it is possible with whatever optimization is being worked on at CA, M2TW might run on medium with that 5700 (but you're right, the whole FX series is just a waste of time, and a siren calling our dollars onto the rocks of display despair!). 6200's have 4 pixel pipelines while 5500's have only 2 ( ), while your 5700 'should' have 4 as well. Elsewhere in the thread on the Demo are those who reported the game working with G4's!!! (poorly to middling it is true, but working at all is a miracle), so who knows. We will conduct experimentation on the lowly 5500 to see how it fairs, although a 6600 we had played the demo with little effort and everything except max shadows.

    Technical:
    (The above said, 6200s have some of the support you would want and at least 4 pixel pipelines. Depending on your FX5700 however, there may not be too much difference between them- or there could be a vast gulf between them... The 6200 will probably have a whole step better in shader model support and Open GL, and probably twice as many pixels and textures per pass, but different manufacturers make for high variation in what you might have... the 5700 PROBABLY has 4 pixel pipelines too. I say this because I recently saw one that stated it had only 2! Often something that happens with LE versions, this would be the equivalent of a FX5500 or lower, which is truly a limited vehicle, and I have two of those so I can honestly say these things are pieces of junk.)

    The 6200 system mentioned is quite bottlenecked by Ram. If IRCC that is a turbo cached 6200, so it only has 64 or 128 megs onboard and is "borrowing" system Ram that is available to reach 256 of Vram. The problem with that 6200 system is that it hardly has enough to run the OS and a decent game and the Vid card will be left begging in the dust. 1 gig is probably going to show a significant improvement in all operations on the machine, graphic or not. 2 Gigs would be better! Your 5700 sys has adequate ram for the vid card it has, but you have a waaay better CPU and a decent vid card and a little more ram would make a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlJabberwock
    Jagger !

    Sorry no one got back to you dude! Here's the deal with Semprons and SSE2.
    Typically if you have a non 64-bit AMD like Sempron or Atholn XP, you will have to determine whether its an A-Socket or anything else like a 754 (in some cases even an AM2 or 939/940). If you have a socket-"A", you're out of luck my friend, but only for the Demo because it requires SSE2 which is not on the socket-"A" versions of these chips. Word is the full game will not require SSE2, so if you're a socket-A type (like three of the machines in my house!) hang tough till November 14 when the full game is out, and there will be joy (at least in SP mode... MP may or may not function satisfactorily since CA appears to be saying they will not at this time probably support these in MP). If you have a Sempron tht is non-"A" type, raise the flag! You can probably play the demo too! I have two Athlon XPs and a Sempron all in the A socket version. Fortunately we also have a 754 and an AM2 for the Dual 64.

    Econ21 is right, it makes little sense to use "highest" detail settings for the units unless you are just testing out your card or plan on publishing some screenies... or your system just doesn't notice the difference between highest and lowest!

    Thanks ToranagaSama for the fraps link. I use this myself, but I don't have it on all the machines we use so its nice to have it somewehere convenient.

    Just an opinion, but probably the link and the comment regarding standards for reporting should be added in the thread about thoughts on the demo rather than this one ('will my rig run M2TW...')

    Cheers!

    Al Jabberwock
    Thanks, Jabberwock! I can wait till middle of November as I can't download the demo anyway. I am stuck in a hotel room for at least another month with a 24Kb connection. Although I bought Barbarian Invasions which will keep me busy till them. Too bad, I can't download the BI patch though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius
    That's weird. Because with my Geforce FX 5700, I can play RTW at near high settings just fine. Have you tried updating to the latest drivers? Or maybe it's just a compatibility problem with your dual-core processor.

    As far as those two cards are concerned, I don't think there is that huge of a difference between the 6200 and the 6150LE. If you want to upgrade your card, go with the 7 series.
    I do have the latest drivers. Hmmm...now that that I've downloaded Fraps I should play around with the graphics settings in Rome and check my fps. I had to turn everything but unit detail to fairly low settings when I bought a higher resolution monitor recently(1280 x 1084) but that was before I knew what a difference turning off shadows makes. Knowing that I might be able to get better performance. Either way the demo still runs a bit choppy at 15fps with almost everything down to lowest.

    It being the built in card might make a difference, too. I've been told that that means anything running in the background is using up the vid. card, too.
    I'll be springing for something in the 7 series by Christmas. Preferably the most powerful one I can afford. Hoepfully they'll be cheaper after the 8 series comes out.

    Thanks for the help.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, I did get the latest drivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimfan40
    Do you know if there is a big difference between his "Nvidia GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) with 256 MB of Memory" and my Nvidia Geforce 6150 LE? My CPU is powerful (Athlon 64 X2 4200+) and my RAM higher than needed (2 gig), but the demo runs very poorly on my comp(even rome needs many of the settings put to low to play with large units). I suspect my graphics card is the culprit, and another poster said I'd need a new one back before the demo came out.

    I plan to buy a new one but I don't really know the difference between the numbers, except that the first number(6, 7, etc.) is the "generation" and past that the higher the better. Is there any connection between the distance between them and the dif in their specs(6150-6200 small dif, but 6200-6800 larger), or are the numbers just a convenient way to tell which ones are newer?
    Firstly,
    I think you and Max miscommunicated... you said you have to set to low to play RTW with LARGE units, while Max may be playing near High, with normal unit size (though I do not know this, I suspect it from our experience with 5500 and 5500OC cards that simply can't play RTW with large units unless everything else is OFF and the planets align.)

    Secondly,
    Yes, unfortunately there is a HUGE difference between your 6150LE and the 6200 Turbocache thingy. The 6150 is an onboard embued-in-the-motherboard GeForce solution mainly intended for business solutions - affordability with some of the newer API features like Model 3.0 and whatnot.
    Its a 6th gen. budget chip on the mobo (motherboard) and if it has dedicated memory at all, it is small, and it may very well use the sys ram just like the 6200TC. Fortunately you actually have enough Ram to deal with that, but the onboard stuff is not really meant for more serious gaming. An LE card is rarely a good choice for blowing up aliens from Neptune either for a number of reasons, they are rather meant to save money on reduced energy usage- and to keep machines cooler. Note that any mobo running this I have seen still has an AGP slot open (for a "real" card) - I haven't seen any PCI-e mobos yet with this on board. So you can still build up your sys with the same mobo, but it will probably have to be an agp card, and you wil have to go through some hoops to disable your onboard card. Be SURE it has an AGP slot before you do that though! See my posts above on vid cards.

    Thirdly,
    We can't make your onboard thingy into a real card no how, but that's that for now. We should still be able to get decent performance off the demo, even if it isn't "beautiful".
    The first thing to do, do it now, is turn off shadows. Just turn them off. And bloom, its a silly thing anyway. That should increase performance by almost 100%. See if that helps. Another thing to consider is what do you have in your systray and running in the background? If you are running search programs on the net, music (especially music) and some anti virus programs like Norton and the like, you are seriously tying up your resources. DIsable them or turn them off. Chat programs and other kinds of services running in the background that are uneccessary are a bane to computer efficiency. Turn all that junk off! Make sure you don't have some malware or scumware sucking you into cyberspace while it watches our every moment or uses your spare bandwidth for its own nefarious purposes too!

    Done that? Ok, if it is still slow, the next thing is unit detail. Make sure it is on high not highest. Check. Still want more? Turn grass down or off. Look, you're just going to trample it down anyway, and who the heck is watching the grass when the Frog Cav is bearing down on your line anyway! Turn building detail to low, you hardly deal with any in the demo anyway. Revisit unit detail again and turn it to medium if you must.

    Let me know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wartz
    Well from reading this thread its obvious that I wont be able to run this game very well at all.
    Current pc.
    athlonXP3200+
    1gb pc3200 ram
    ati 9800se

    I have about $400-$450 to spend and I was looking at a new setup of an ASUS socket AM2 mobo, a athlon64 3500+, 1gb of DDR2 memory and a x1800xt/gto.

    but if anyone has any better suggestions for better deals to stretch my money go ahead and make them. :)

    Well, personally, I suggest that people wait for Windows Vista before upgrading. Also, at this date, it makes little sense to spend money on a single-core CPU. Once Vista drops in just a couple months, the computing focus will be all 64 bit **multi-** core CPUs. The gaming industry is already shifting this way. Wait! Save another $500 and you'll be able to build a REALLY nice machine in 4-6 months. Al the next gen CPUs, GPUs and MBs will be out.

    That said you're main problem, like a few others, is that "se" version card. To anyone thinking of upgrading now or in the future---NEVER---spend your money on a video card with any kind of "se" or "le" moniker. It never pays to buy a 'light' version. Also, never buy based upon the amount of *memory* that a card has. These are just GIMMICKS to separate you from your money!!! Attempting to make you *think* you're getting more card performance, when actually you're getting less.

    If money is the issue, and such cards are at the right price point, then I strongly suggest looking into 'used' or 'refurbished' cards of better quality. It always pays to do a little homework.

    For example way back when, I purchased my 9700pro *used* at about the same time as the release of the 9800xt. Hardocp.com did some good real world testing of the cards, including a 9800pro. The 9700 pro and 9800 pro tested *virtually* equal and in a few cases the 9700pro bested both. Importanly, the 9700pro had better graphic visuals than the 9800xt. ATI stopped making the 9700pro cause it was eating into sales of the newer cards.

    I, personally, tested the 9700pro vs the 9800xt and the 9700pro provided better graphic *quality* even though the xt had a faster clock and memory speed.

    Given that both cards, the 9800pro and xt, were roughly US$200 more than the cost of a *used* 9700pro---it was the far better bang for the buck! At the time of my purchase ATI had discontinued the 9700pro. Today, it's still kicking and taking a lickin....

    NOW, back to your situation, one way you can squeeze a bit more performance from your present setup (and keep **saving**) is to "softmod" or "unlock" your 9800se card---into a **9800pro**.

    You can do a Google and find LOTS of info. Though, I give you this WARNING!!!, if you don't follow the instructions, in other words do it **right** you can render your card useless. I think its worth the risk given an se is probably, now, worth $25-50 (or less!!). Not much risk.

    Ok, here a link to a Tom's Hardware site providing a chart showing the difference in the R3xx series ATI cards (as well as Nvidia's cards). The thing to note is that the 9800se though having a faster clock/memory speed has half the *bandwidth* (128 bit) and half the rendering *pipelines* (4x1) compared to 256 bit and 8x1 for both the 9700pro, 9800pro and xt.

    As I said the cool thing is you can unlock/softmod the 9800se:

    Chart:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/12/...iii/index.html

    Link to all the VGA charts and buying guides at Tom's (these are EXCELLENT for comparing):

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    http://www.rojakpot.com/showarticle....tno=101&pgno=0

    Go to the Forums ask questions, also, HardOCP.com has excellent forums with very knowledgeable people, so check those forums too.

    Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagger
    Thanks, Jabberwock! I can wait till middle of November as I can't download the demo anyway. I am stuck in a hotel room for at least another month with a 24Kb connection. Although I bought Barbarian Invasions which will keep me busy till them. Too bad, I can't download the BI patch though.
    Doh! As a hotel guy, that is pure torture to me. The horror!
    No patching because of the connection... Um, if you are in a decent sized town, I would seriously consider going to the library to see if they have a high speed connection, or if there are any 'hotspots' if you have a wireless card. otherwise, go to a cyber cafe and GET THAT PATCH! Look, if I was trapped in a hotel room somewhere for a _month_, even if I wasn't in a large town, I would either beg the hotel staff to find me a high speed connection for the ten minutes I would need or I would rent a car and DRIVE to the nearest place that had one! LOL Jagger, I feel your pain!!!
    At least I hope it isn't snowing where you are!

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlJabberwock
    Firstly,
    I think you and Max miscommunicated... you said you have to set to low to play RTW with LARGE units, while Max may be playing near High, with normal unit size (though I do not know this, I suspect it from our experience with 5500 and 5500OC cards that simply can't play RTW with large units unless everything else is OFF and the planets align.)
    That could be it. I played on much higher settings when I set unit size to medium. I only got into the habit of playing with large units when I started doing PBEM campaigns, and everyone else preferred large.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlJabberwock
    Secondly,
    Yes, unfortunately there is a HUGE difference between your 6150LE and the 6200 Turbocache thingy. The 6150 is an onboard embued-in-the-motherboard GeForce solution mainly intended for business solutions - affordability with some of the newer API features like Model 3.0 and whatnot.
    Its a 6th gen. budget chip on the mobo (motherboard) and if it has dedicated memory at all, it is small, and it may very well use the sys ram just like the 6200TC. Fortunately you actually have enough Ram to deal with that, but the onboard stuff is not really meant for more serious gaming. An LE card is rarely a good choice for blowing up aliens from Neptune either for a number of reasons, they are rather meant to save money on reduced energy usage- and to keep machines cooler. Note that any mobo running this I have seen still has an AGP slot open (for a "real" card) - I haven't seen any PCI-e mobos yet with this on board. So you can still build up your sys with the same mobo, but it will probably have to be an agp card, and you wil have to go through some hoops to disable your onboard card. Be SURE it has an AGP slot before you do that though! See my posts above on vid cards.
    Ok, that's what I was most curious about. To my computer illiterate mind, a difference of fifty(6200-6150) seemed small but that person with the 6200 was told he could run the game(when I had trouble with the demo). Knowing there is a big difference makes me feel better.

    So it's a budget card, eh? That explains a lot. I actually do have a PCI-E slot for a video card in my comp. One of the few things I remember a much more computer saavy friend(who I unfortunately don't get to talk to much or I'd be barraging him with my irritating questions) telling me when he looked at it. Do I have to disable my built in card when I get a new one? I was under the impression the inbuilt one would handle some of the background stuff and OS while the added card would be used by the game. I could certainly be wrong, though.


    Quote Originally Posted by AlJabberwock
    Thirdly,
    We can't make your onboard thingy into a real card no how, but that's that for now. We should still be able to get decent performance off the demo, even if it isn't "beautiful".
    The first thing to do, do it now, is turn off shadows. Just turn them off. And bloom, its a silly thing anyway. That should increase performance by almost 100%. See if that helps. Another thing to consider is what do you have in your systray and running in the background? If you are running search programs on the net, music (especially music) and some anti virus programs like Norton and the like, you are seriously tying up your resources. DIsable them or turn them off. Chat programs and other kinds of services running in the background that are uneccessary are a bane to computer efficiency. Turn all that junk off! Make sure you don't have some malware or scumware sucking you into cyberspace while it watches our every moment or uses your spare bandwidth for its own nefarious purposes too!

    Done that? Ok, if it is still slow, the next thing is unit detail. Make sure it is on high not highest. Check. Still want more? Turn grass down or off. Look, you're just going to trample it down anyway, and who the heck is watching the grass when the Frog Cav is bearing down on your line anyway! Turn building detail to low, you hardly deal with any in the demo anyway. Revisit unit detail again and turn it to medium if you must.

    Let me know?

    Al Jabberwock
    Most of that already done, with unit detail on medium, unfortunately. I can play the demo with about an average of 15fps. Never thought about shutting off msn or Norton Antivirus. It's a bit late and I have a midterm tomorrow, but I'll give it another shot afterwards with those programs turned off and report back with my fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToranagaSama
    NOW, back to your situation, one way you can squeeze a bit more performance from your present setup (and keep **saving**) is to "softmod" or "unlock" your 9800se card---into a **9800pro**.

    You can do a Google and find LOTS of info. Though, I give you this WARNING!!!, if you don't follow the instructions, in other words do it **right** you can render your card useless. I think its worth the risk given an se is probably, now, worth $25-50 (or less!!). Not much risk.

    Ok, here a link to a Tom's Hardware site providing a chart showing the difference in the R3xx series ATI cards (as well as Nvidia's cards). The thing to note is that the 9800se though having a faster clock/memory speed has half the *bandwidth* (128 bit) and half the rendering *pipelines* (4x1) compared to 256 bit and 8x1 for both the 9700pro, 9800pro and xt.

    As I said the cool thing is you can unlock/softmod the 9800se:

    Chart:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/12/...iii/index.html

    Link to all the VGA charts and buying guides at Tom's (these are EXCELLENT for comparing):

    http://www.tomshardware.com/site/vgacharts/index.html

    Radeon 9800 SE to Radeon 9800 Pro Mod Guide!:

    http://www.rojakpot.com/showarticle....tno=101&pgno=0

    Go to the Forums ask questions, also, HardOCP.com has excellent forums with very knowledgeable people, so check those forums too.

    Luck!

    ~TS
    Sweet tip. I have already been running this card overclocked with a new heaksink/fan on it. Now I just installed the softmodded drivers for my card and Fraps tells me I'm getting about 40%ish better performance in RTW :O. The average framerate in a standardish battle. (custom battle, 1000 men on both sides, gallic countryside) went from 12~ to 17~ with most stuff on high except grass and vegetation(medium) at 1024x768 res. (large unit size) Shadows on units off.

    2006-10-16 00:55:44 - RomeTW
    Frames: 7473 - Time: 429871ms - Avg: 17.384 - Min: 9 - Max: 34

    I'll wait for the 2nd demo to see how m2tw runs. If I get playable performance(hopefully I should with the unlocked pipelines), you saved me some money. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlJabberwock
    Doh! As a hotel guy, that is pure torture to me. The horror!
    No patching because of the connection... Um, if you are in a decent sized town, I would seriously consider going to the library to see if they have a high speed connection, or if there are any 'hotspots' if you have a wireless card. otherwise, go to a cyber cafe and GET THAT PATCH! Look, if I was trapped in a hotel room somewhere for a _month_, even if I wasn't in a large town, I would either beg the hotel staff to find me a high speed connection for the ten minutes I would need or I would rent a car and DRIVE to the nearest place that had one! LOL Jagger, I feel your pain!!!
    At least I hope it isn't snowing where you are!

    Cheers,

    Al Jabberwock
    Actually I have been in this hotel room since the middle of July. I am going a bit stir crazy. I am doing a contract in the Monterrey Bay area, Ca...so no snow thank goodness. Beautiful area but too much work to really enjoy. Fortunately it wraps up shortly...about the time MTW2 comes out. Thank goodness.
    Last edited by Jagger; 10-16-2006 at 07:33.

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    Just a quick question. What kind of a graphics card do I need to rum MTW2 smoothly (medium graphics settings, maximum number of soldiers per unit)?

    This is providing the rest of the rig is strong enough (2 gigs of ram, Core duop or Core 2 duo processor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wartz
    I'll wait for the 2nd demo to see how m2tw runs. If I get playable performance(hopefully I should with the unlocked pipelines), you saved me some money. :)
    How much was that you planned to spend? $400-500??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimfan40
    I do have the latest drivers. Hmmm...now that that I've downloaded Fraps I should play around with the graphics settings in Rome and check my fps. I had to turn everything but unit detail to fairly low settings when I bought a higher resolution monitor recently(1280 x 1084) but that was before I knew what a difference turning off shadows makes. Knowing that I might be able to get better performance. Either way the demo still runs a bit choppy at 15fps with almost everything down to lowest.

    It being the built in card might make a difference, too. I've been told that that means anything running in the background is using up the vid. card, too.
    I'll be springing for something in the 7 series by Christmas. Preferably the most powerful one I can afford. Hoepfully they'll be cheaper after the 8 series comes out.

    Thanks for the help.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, I did get the latest drivers.
    I really do think that it might be something with your dual-core processor. I'm not sure. But I'm fairly confident that you should not be having such performance problems with that configuration. Your graphic card should be more than enough for Rome.

    And just to clear up, I run RTW near high settings with the unit setting set to Large.

    So yeah, your problem is very unusual, and that's why I'm thinking that it might be some sort of compatability problem with your dual-core processor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasill
    Just a quick question. What kind of a graphics card do I need to rum MTW2 smoothly (medium graphics settings, maximum number of soldiers per unit)?

    This is providing the rest of the rig is strong enough (2 gigs of ram, Core duop or Core 2 duo processor).
    a good match for a C2D would be a 7900GTO or X1900GT

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    Is a Card of that power really needed though?

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    well, i only get an average of 15FPs with maxed out settings (see previous page), so if we are to consider 30FPS as smooth then this would be a good start.

    granted, i was running at 1920x1200 which he is probably not.

    if he has a 17 or 19 inch panel running at 1280x1024 then i guess a 7900GS would be perfect for Medium settings with Maximum unit size at 30FPS. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine_Tergiversate
    if he has a 17 or 19 inch panel running at 1280x1024 then i guess a 7900GS would be perfect for Medium settings with Maximum unit size at 30FPS. :)

    Well this is about what I am happy with at this moment. I can't really afford a new card right now since I'll spend everything on the processor, motherboard and RAM. I'll buy a new card later.

    I was planning on uising my old 6800 GeForce for a while. Will this do?

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    if it's a GT then yes, if it's one one of the cut down version of the 6800 then you might be pushing it.

    depends how the optimisation of the final game goes.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine_Tergiversate
    if it's a GT then yes, if it's one one of the cut down version of the 6800 then you might be pushing it.

    depends how the optimisation of the final game goes.............

    It's a GT version.

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    Hi, I'm new here and looking into buying a new PC for MTW2 at the start of next year. Currently I'm looking at-

    Core2Duo E6600 2.4Ghz
    Radeon X1900XT 256
    2Gb RAM

    Any comments/advice on if this will give a good performance would be great!

    Also anyone got any idea if that CPU or graphics card are likely to come down in price anytime soon?

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    That's almost exactly the same as my new system, which is :

    Core2Duo E6600 2.4Ghz
    Radeon X1950XTX 512 MB
    2Gb Corsair RAM

    And this runs the demo very well on all the highest settings. I think there was only one occasion when the battle of Agincourt went as low as 14 FPS. Given that there's likely to be improved optimisation between the demo and release version of the game, I don't think your system will have any issues whatsoever.
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    Awesome, that's good to hear! Now I just have to raise the cash to buy the damn thing!

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    Would my:
    Intel P4 3.00Ghz(2CPU)
    64mb vidcard(dunno what model it is- must be a radeon)
    246mbRAM
    100Gb of space

    run M2TW? And what's up with the 2CPU thingy? I'm not a very tech-savvy person btw.... And this is certainly a low-end pc, which can only run RTW at low-med settings.
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    You have neither enough RAM, nor enough horsepower in your video card. If it runs at all, i'll be surprised.
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    Hello,

    After all that erudite PC knowledgery another "will it work on my PC", excuse the PC simpleton.

    My system

    AMD Opteron 146 @ 2.7
    7800 gt
    1 gig memory

    Any advice gratefully received.
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    perfectly fine.

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