The "Would my PC be able to run M2TW?" thread (all such queries here pls)

[Basilios II Voulgaroktonos]

yes but i didnt understand something.you did not tell me the x1600 is a good grafic card?and with the proccesor 2ghz dual core i dont have a problem..

[maestro]

Sorry, the processor is fine, the memory is fnie. The graphics card is no more than adequate at best. I'm sure it will play the game, yes, but you wno't get the eye-candy You'd be much better off with an X1900 which is roughly twice as powerful.

[Basilios II Voulgaroktonos]

the x1900 how much memory does it have?and you know how expensive is it?but maybe i should keap my old pc?but i think its old nowdays...

[maestro]

You can get the X1900 in many different flavours but you won't be able to upgrade your current PC because the graphics slot will be different. You'll be using AGP graphics and all of the new cards over the last couple of years are PCIe.

If you're going to build a new computer, always start by buying the best video card you can afford and 2Gb of RAM then build the rest around it.

[Dave1984]

Out of interest, how can I find out what FPS I'm getting in the demo?

[GeneralMikeIII]

Out of interest, how can I find out what FPS I'm getting in the demo?

There is a free download for a program called Fraps. It does a bunch of things, and one of them is display the FPS you get during a game. Follow the link, dl and install it, and then doubleclick on the shortcut it puts on your desktop before you play. If you look through the settings, it gives you a bunch of options and you can choose the ones you want. Have fun!

http://www.fraps.com/download.php

[Dave1984]

There is a free download for a program called Fraps. It does a bunch of things, and one of them is display the FPS you get during a game. Follow the link, dl and install it, and then doubleclick on the shortcut it puts on your desktop before you play. If you look through the settings, it gives you a bunch of options and you can choose the ones you want. Have fun!

http://www.fraps.com/download.php

Thanks alot for that, was very happy to see an average of 37fps at Pavia and 39fps at Agincourt... that's enough for me

[ProudNerd]

Definitely upgrading your RAM will be the quickest and cheapest fix. If your board can handle the extra, getting a 1 GB stick would be helpful.

I'm an Nvidia adherent, so if you go the graphics card route, the over clocked 6800s and 7200s (?) are probably reasonably priced (i.e., c. $200).

no a ram upgarde woudl eb useless go for a cheap graphics card like a 6600 or 300 first.

[maestro]

Surely a cheap graphics card wouldbe useless, too. Get a decent graphics card and the RAM upgrade.

[ProudNerd]

Surely a cheap graphics card wouldbe useless, too. Get a decent graphics card and the RAM upgrade.

He migth not be able to afford it. Thats why i assumed he still had such a horrible card. My vanilla 6600 can run mtw2 meduim wiht little stuttering with a sempron 2800+ processor and 1gb so he woudl get decent performace for peanuts.

[Orda Khan]

10 out of 10 for the content of this thread. You guys certainly know your stuff

.....Orda

[maestro]

He migth not be able to afford it. Thats why i assumed he still had such a horrible card. My vanilla 6600 can run mtw2 meduim wiht little stuttering with a sempron 2800+ processor and 1gb so he woudl get decent performace for peanuts.

i'm surprised you get decent performance with that lot - but I'll take your word for it I guess I'm just greedy - I've always been of the opinion that a game should be played with everything maxed out or you're just not playing the game the developers intended. but that's an expensive game to play, i admit, and not for everyone I upgraded in time for Rome and I've upgraded in time for M2... can't wait

[hoom]

i'm quite disappointed that the full game won't support Pixel Shader 3.0 or HDR

A few characters & buildings on screen at a time in the few games that do use HDR to date makes modern top of the range crazy power PCs cry like a baby for mercy.
Imagine the screams of pain we would see from people without many thousands of dollars to spend on a massive upgrade to play M2TW.

As it is with PS2.0, bloom & SSE2 requirements, there is already some serious complaining going on.

PS2 is a big enough advance over the DX7 level of RTW for me.
I'm actually surprised they even went that far but since they did that, I'd say it would be likely that the next full TW game should have PS3/HDR

[ProudNerd]

i'm surprised you get decent performance with that lot - but I'll take your word for it I guess I'm just greedy - I've always been of the opinion that a game should be played with everything maxed out or you're just not playing the game the developers intended. but that's an expensive game to play, i admit, and not for everyone I upgraded in time for Rome and I've upgraded in time for M2... can't wait

Oh don’t get me wrong I wholeheartedly agree which is why I got a am2 3500 cpu 1gb ddr2 667mhz and a asus motherboard. I haven’t decided on a gpu yet I cant afford much more so it will probably be a 7600 or whatever good I see on eBay! its hard to afford expensive things when you’re a legally blind pensioner :) I’m sick of this computer and I want something better I have to build my new one from scratch because of the new socket type but I’ve never built one myself before I’m looking forward to it!

[dcd111]

I'm looking for recommendations on what to upgrade first, RAM or graphics card. My system:
Windows XP
2.6 Ghz P4
512 MB ddr400
Radeon 9200 128MB
I know ideally I should be increasing both, but my wife will not necessarily agree ;)...

Definitely upgrading your RAM will be the quickest and cheapest fix. If your board can handle the extra, getting a 1 GB stick would be helpful...

no a ram upgarde woudl eb useless go for a cheap graphics card like a 6600 or 300 first.

Surely a cheap graphics card wouldbe useless, too. Get a decent graphics card and the RAM upgrade.

He migth not be able to afford it. Thats why i assumed he still had such a horrible card. My vanilla 6600 can run mtw2 meduim wiht little stuttering with a sempron 2800+ processor and 1gb so he woudl get decent performace for peanuts.

In the end, I did decide to bite the bullet and upgrade both. I have another 1 gb of RAM on its way, and I'm working on acquiring either a 6800 GT OC or a 6800 Ultra (hooray for eBay). With AGP my options are limited, and I'm not about to start replacing my mobo, too, but I think I should be in a much better position with these upgrades. The reason I've survived with such a lousy graphics card so far is that I just don't play that many games anymore, I don't have the time with two young kids and a long commute. But I made time to play RTW when I could, so I figure M2TW is as good an excuse as any to do some upgrading.

Thanks to all for the helpful comments. If anyone has any other suggestions for an AGP card, or thoughts on whether a 6800 ultra is actually worth a few extra bucks over a GT or GT OC, that would be appreciated, too. Wish me luck on my eBay bidding!

[edyzmedieval]

What about my PC...

3.2 GHZ Intel Pentium IV with HT
512MB DDRAM
250GB HDD
ATI Radeon X700 256MB

I ran the Special Edition demo from Amazon, and I have the optimum settings from Medium to High. I want to run everything on high. What's needed?

More RAM?

[maestro]

What about my PC...

3.2 GHZ Intel Pentium IV with HT
512MB DDRAM
250GB HDD
ATI Radeon X700 256MB

I ran the Special Edition demo from Amazon, and I have the optimum settings from Medium to High. I want to run everything on high. What's needed?

More RAM?

To run everything on high you'll need a minimum of 1Gb of RAM {preferably 2Gb) and a much faster graphics card. You can pick up something like a NVidia 6800 GT (256Mb) for less than a hundred quid and that's got roughly twice the horsepower of your current card if you can push to more like two hundred quid then get an ATI X1900 XT which is one of the fastest out there and will have more than 4 times the power of your current card.

[Glaucus]

Will this run it? :

1 gig ram
Radeon 9280
Pentium 4 2.80 GHz



Even on low?

[maestro]

You meet the minimum requirements but I wouldn't expect any fireworks

[Basilios II Voulgaroktonos]

i have found a computer to bye taht have everything very good except the video card wich i dont know if its worth it.its a aati radeon x1900 but i dont know if its the pro or the xt?there is a big difference betwen those 2 cards?i have found it o a packadge but how much is the X1900 pro and the xt?

[PwnageBot2000]

Hm, before I list my system specs, I'd like to ask about how graphics cards actually work(sorry, not a computer oriented preson ). I'm seeing ones with about 256-512mb memory. However some of the lower memory (such as the 256mb) ones tend to be higher priced than say the 512mb. What makes a good graphics card?? I see it's not just the memory. Someone please help me.
Well anyway, my specs are
-Pentium for 3GHZ or 2.99 ghz (not sure, there's 2 values)
-512 mb ram
-ATI Radeon X700 Pro

Playing the demo with these specs worked out better than i originally thought it would. Obviously, i removed the shadows and the game ran much smoother. If anyone would like to suggest which specs to upgrade that would be nice.

[-oasis-]

Hi all,
I list my system specs:

AMD ATHLON xp 3200
2 Gb Ram Corsair
ATI RADEON 9800 pro 256 mb

Can I run M2tw with a decent detail?

Ps Sorry for my poor english...

Thanks!

[Lord_Phan]

Hm, before I list my system specs, I'd like to ask about how graphics cards actually work(sorry, not a computer oriented preson ). I'm seeing ones with about 256-512mb memory. However some of the lower memory (such as the 256mb) ones tend to be higher priced than say the 512mb. What makes a good graphics card?? I see it's not just the memory. Someone please help me.
Well anyway, my specs are
-Pentium for 3GHZ or 2.99 ghz (not sure, there's 2 values)
-512 mb ram
-ATI Radeon X700 Pro

Playing the demo with these specs worked out better than i originally thought it would. Obviously, i removed the shadows and the game ran much smoother. If anyone would like to suggest which specs to upgrade that would be nice.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6156859/index.html


go here.

[-oasis-]

Hi all,
I list my system specs:

AMD ATHLON xp 3200
2 Gb Ram Corsair
ATI RADEON 9800 pro 256 mb

Can I run M2tw with a decent detail?

Ps Sorry for my poor english...

Thanks!

ahhh...

I can't run the demo because I have the Athlon xp....

Anyone can reply to me?

Thanks again!!!!

[Scurvy]

what are the minimum specs for the game? - they might have been posted earlier in thread,

+ how do i find the specs on my system (i am comparatively computer illiterate)

[Lord_Phan]

what are the minimum specs for the game? - they might have been posted earlier in thread, but i can't be bothered to check

+ how do i find the specs on my system (i am comparatively computer illiterate)

Sorry I can't be bothered to help you right now

[Scurvy]

heres the best i could do - but these figures mean very little to me

Minimum System Requirements:
English version of Microsoft® Windows® 2000/XP.

Celeron 1.8GHz Pentium 4® (1500MHz) or equivalent AMD® processor.

512MB RAM.

8x Speed DVD-ROM drive (1200KB/sec sustained transfer rate) and latest drivers.

11.0 Gigs of uncompressed free hard disk space.

100% DirectX® 9.0c compatible 16-bit sound card and latest drivers.

100% Windows® 2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard and latest drivers.

DirectX® 9.0c.

128MB Hardware Accelerated video card with Shader 1 support and the latest drivers.

Must be 100% DirectX® 9.0c compatible.

Monitor must be able to display 1024x768 resolution or above.

+ again, how do i found out what i'v got

[edyzmedieval]

My Computer->Right Click->Properties

[Lord_Phan]

goto Run in the Start Menu, then type in "Dxdiag" then hit enter.

Direct X will tell you what you have

[PwnageBot2000]

Exactly what i was looking for. Thanks Lord_pham, this will help a lot and in coming years lol.