More Muslim Trouble in the Land of Oz

[Banquo's Ghost]

I wasn't aware that domestic violence was an exclusively Muslim problem.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I wasn't aware that he was talking about simple domestic violence.

Crazed Rabbit

[Banquo's Ghost]

I wasn't aware that he was talking about simple domestic violence.

Ah, simple domestic violence. As opposed to complicated domestic violence, one supposes?

[Dâriûsh]

Ah, simple domestic violence. As opposed to complicated domestic violence, one supposes?

How about a pathetic man willing to kill his family for the sake of his “personal honour”?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Ah, simple domestic violence. As opposed to complicated domestic violence, one supposes?

As opposed to trying to kill your daughter and actually killing your wife becuase your daughter wants to convert to a different religion.

CR

[Scurvy]

I wasn't aware that domestic violence was an exclusively Muslim problem.

exactly, why cover muslim domestic violence exclusively?

[BDC]

I think honour killing is more of a cultural issue than a religious one. I know a Hindu guy with the same kind of problems. He didn't take up my cunning suggestion of him marrying a gay Muslim just to antagonise his family. :(

[Ser Clegane]

I think honour killing is more of a cultural issue than a religious one.

And that exactly nails it - mixing up (unacceptable) behaviour that is based on regional cultures with bevaviour that is rather based on religion seems to be quite common nowadays (the two are of course often influencing each other).

It should be noted that honor killings also used to be not so uncommon in Christian parts of Southern Europe (e.g. Southern parts of Italy)

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

In Europe didn't honour killings usually involve someone outside the family?

I.e. you kill the man that stole your daughter's verginity, rather than your daughter?

Either way honour killings are utterly pathetic. You are responsible for your own actions. If she wants to become a Christian it should reflect on her, not her father.

[BDC]

In Europe didn't honour killings usually involve someone outside the family?

I.e. you kill the man that stole your daughter's verginity, rather than your daughter?

Either way honour killings are utterly pathetic. You are responsible for your own actions. If she wants to become a Christian it should reflect on her, not her father.

Indeed, but it insults the family or something.

I'll never understand the concept properly.

[Crazed Rabbit]

And that exactly nails it - mixing up (unacceptable) behaviour that is based on regional cultures with bevaviour that is rather based on religion seems to be quite common nowadays (the two are of course often influencing each other).

It should be noted that honor killings also used to be not so uncommon in Christian parts of Southern Europe (e.g. Southern parts of Italy)

It seems to me the problem is with Islamic culture, no matter where these events take place; Iran, Australia, or Germany. Do the Christians, or non-muslims, living in the Middle East practice honor killings?

Crazed Rabbit

[Keba]

Until recently (or possibly still) blood feuds were common in Albania ... similar enogh. The recently bit means as recently as 8 years ago, maybe still ... I'm kinda out of touch with the place.

[Reenk Roink]

It seems to me the problem is with Islamic culture, no matter where these events take place; Iran, Australia, or Germany. Do the Christians, or non-muslims, living in the Middle East practice honor killings?

Yes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3149030.stm

Scotland Yard believe there were 12 'honour killings' in the UK last year and said they were not restricted to Muslims, but also occurred in Sikh and Christian families.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Funny that that statement was in an article on how a Muslim man killed his daughter for becomeing westernized in Britain.

More importantly, they offer no proof of honor killings amoung different cultures. They could label one nut an 'honor killing', which it may well be, but it would not be an indication of a cultural thing unless there are others from that same culture doing it. After all, it would be foolish to say only Muslims do honor killings. But it would be foolish too to ignore their prevalence.

If people are saying that these honor killings are really cultural and not religious based, there should be a proportionate amount of examples of non-Muslims in areas in the Middle East commiting honor killings.

Crazed Rabbit