IGN Faction Feature: Holy Roman Empire

**Praetorian308** · 10-15-2006, 00:04

I will also play as them first.

Unfortunately they have a lack of quality missle units.

Those Reiters don't look bad at hand-to-hand combat.

**econ21** · 10-15-2006, 00:06

Originally Posted by Praetorian308

Unfortunately they have a lack of quality missle units.

Not sure about that. I guess they do lack elite missiles. But I developed a healthy respect for those French crossbows at Pavia. A couple tore up a unit of Zweihanders when I was not paying attention. And the French cannon seemed tasty enough. The HRE get equivalents, so they should not be too bad at range. And I have not even mentioned the mounted crossbowmen, who were great in MTW.

**TB666** · 10-15-2006, 11:48

Still torn wether I should play these guys first or Venice or simply unlock all factions so I can play my danes.
Oh decisions decisions

**Redtemplar** · 10-15-2006, 15:31

In my opinion HRE and Danes have many armored troops. It is very incorrect historically.
It was said that the game is balanced in multi, but I don't see that really. When I had compared polish troops and HRE troops I saw that HRE has armored ground troops and good heavy cavalry (polish side has it also). Well the armored heavy ground troops weren't in such numbers on the HRE's side and HRE wasn't such powerful faction, because after the XII it was weak and divided in many small kingdoms (the game take place from X to XVI century).
I wait for other factions to see if other nations have such good units.

**TB666** · 10-15-2006, 15:51

Well you gotta remember that upgrades are visable now.
Units may not start out as armored but after a few upgrades they will be.
Also the danes according to the beta pics doesn't have that many armored troops, mostly chain-mail.
But of course after a few upgrades they will probably wear plate which is good.

**Siris** · 10-16-2006, 18:40

I have been planning on playing the HRE first.

It was my first faction that I played in MTW as well, so it is fitting, that I do the same for MTW2.

That and I am 1/4 German.

**Callatian** · 10-16-2006, 20:59

And this is the serpentine:

https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y2...2/DSC01035.jpg

https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y2...Cannonfire.jpg

Halebard militia:

https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y2...2/DSC01047.jpg

Teutonic knigts:

https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y2...2/DSC01046.jpg

And you know were to find the rest.

**MSB** · 10-17-2006, 20:20

Gah! In the video the units look less detailed than the ones in RTW. It just shows all of that lovely shading that you see on screenshots is post-processed.

**big_steveo** · 10-18-2006, 03:16

Does anyone know where Teutonic knights will fit into M2TW? Are there even going to be Teutonic Order units i nthe game, or will the fall under something like "imperial dismounted knights"? I'm assuming if a Teutonic unit was in the game it would be under HRE, although I'm not that educated in medieval history.

**ByzantineKnight** · 10-18-2006, 04:06

Originally Posted by Furious Mental

How do you get the units that clear, I set the unit detail to high and they all looked blured...

**Furious Mental** · 10-18-2006, 04:07

"Gah! In the video the units look less detailed than the ones in RTW. It just shows all of that lovely shading that you see on screenshots is post-processed."

No it doesn't. It shows that IGN doesn't bother to turn up the settings when they do their media. I have a computer that is a couple of years old but I can still get better detail than is shown in their videos.

Unit detail appears to do basically nothing. Turn up the texture setting and you should notice a huge improvement, inc normal mapping on the highest setting.

**ByzantineKnight** · 10-18-2006, 04:10

Ok thanks!!

**monkian** · 10-18-2006, 11:52

I thought the Serpentine was a multi barralled 'organ gun'

**Furious Mental** · 10-18-2006, 14:05

Na but they do have a couple of those sorts of things. One is called the ribauld. It looks to have 9 large gun barrels. There's another one in screenshots which has lots of small gun barrels. Don't know what it's called.

I am wondering if maybe the Forlorn Hope have two hitpoints so they can get through spear walls.