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    I remember back in MTW v1.1 taking a chiv knight out to the flank, putting it in a wide line and then coming down the enemy line letting the tip of the chiv knight clip the enemy xbow units. I wiped out all 5 enemy xbow units, and didn't loose a single man in the chiv knight. This was before I realized it was a bug. Once I realized it was a bug, I never used it again, but I know top players who used it all the time so you were at a severe disadvantage if you didn't use it when going up against these players.

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    Thanks for the answers.
    But the scenary was So Beautiful..
    I miss so much.
    We cannot see the single rank formation - without bug - any more then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BERSERK_Yas
    We cannot see the single rank formation - without bug - any more then?
    The bug is gone, but there might be other exploits with very wide single rank formations such as wrapping around a unit that isn't in single rank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzz3D
    The bug is gone, but there might be other exploits with very wide single rank formations such as wrapping around a unit that isn't in single rank.
    I remember in MTW that a long row (maybe double row) of AUM, for example, could be pretty nasty against the AI infantry. But my impression in RTW is that there may be more of a benefit of having a sufficiently deep mass of troops. I don't know if that is just because cav is more prevalent and lethal in RTW, or if the engine as changed in someway to make issues of penetrating a formation etc more important. Did STW/MTW have a "mass" parameter for a unit? In RTW, it seems quite important. I don't know if mass matters only on an individual per soldier basis, but realistically depth of formation should come into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21
    Did STW/MTW have a "mass" parameter for a unit?
    No. It was modeled as a probability to cause a pushback. However, the men in a unit had a strong elastic modulus, so it was relatively hard to break a single line formation. I think this made single line formations overly effective, and if they were in hold formation they never broke apart as I recall.

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