New demo coming (Battle of Otumba)

[CBR]

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...cID=4778.topic
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This is my translation of a German email I received from amazon:

"You have preordered "Medieval 2" at Amazon.de and thus obtained the right to the game demo. Unfortunately a mistake has occurred and the demo has appeared too early on the net.

As a small compensation SEGA has agreed to make a brand new demo. This is being finalised at the moment, based on the finished game und offers amongst other things a brand new battle to play.

As soon as this demo is available we will inform you and send you the password and the link for downloading it. It is expected that this mail will be sent to you on the 24th of October."

8o 8o 8o 8o

I am pretty sure it is not a hoax, but I will ask around.

EDIT: As this demo is based on the finished game, I am almost certainly positively sure it won't require sse2

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CBR

[R'as al Ghul]

EDIT: As this demo is based on the finished game, I am almost certainly positively sure it won't require sse2

This sounds good. I haven't preordered it but I've heard that amazon is providing a demo for those who have.

R'as

Edit: German release date 10.10., demo download two days prior

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

If its true that is great news

[hoom]

Yeah, the fact that the Readme.txt of the 'officially' downloadable version called it the Special Edition, made me figure the sites were just releasing the PC gamer version & Sega allowed it to prevent/circumvent everyone getting it through unofficial channels.

I've been expecting a 2nd non-SE version to come out (or be cancelled outright due to wide availability of the SE).

Hopefully we'll get to see a custom battle without scripted AI & ability to select units/upgrades.
Or at least Auto Generated armies without scripted AI.

[SpencerH]

Dont hold your breath.

[tibilicus]

Just out of itnerest. What stops any oen uploading this "new" demo onto torrent servers?..

Tib

[TB666]

Just out of itnerest. What stops any oen uploading this "new" demo onto torrent servers?..

Tib

The fact that is hasn't been released yet I suppose
Bad joke I know

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I might pre-order it next week or something.

Another Demo could be nice, hope it has better stuff on it.

[shifty157]

Just out of itnerest. What stops any oen uploading this "new" demo onto torrent servers?..

Tib

Nothing. But you figure that by the time people get the torrent uploaded and seed it until its selfsustaining itll probably be a day two later. SO whoever preorders gets the demo for two days or so before most anyone else will be able to.

I was planning on preordering from amazon anyway in the coming week so im rather pelased with the news. I very much hope that they offer the demo at a decent download rate though.

[tgi01]

Yes I also got a promise of a demo when I preordered mine from swedish webshop ...

TGI

[tiny_titan]

I would be suprised if CA released a new demo because there is only just under 4 weeks to go before the release of the game on the 14th for the US 16th Australia. A new demo would be nice to have a look at and compare changes, improvements, etc with the old demo. I for one would not be suprised to hear by the end of this week 20th Oct (in Australia) that MTW2 had gone gold and then give it at least 2 weeks to be shipped out ready for the worldwide release.

[Ares]

I would be suprised if CA released a new demo because there is only just under 4 weeks to go before the release of the game on the 14th for the US 16th Australia. A new demo would be nice to have a look at and compare changes, improvements, etc with the old demo. I for one would not be suprised to hear by the end of this week 20th Oct (in Australia) that MTW2 had gone gold and then give it at least 2 weeks to be shipped out ready for the worldwide release.

Maybe they plan to release a new demo after the release of the official game.

[AlJabberwock]

I would say its also just possible that they listen to the forums for feedback and did not like too much what they heard. Also likely they had some thoughts about exclusive or illegal being the only way in which a demo was being distributed which forced their hand for the first one, and it may be something they need to think about for the second one.

That angry buzzing sound coming from the ranks of the 28% who are socket-A types woke up someone in accounting...


Al Jabberwock

[Ares]

I would say its also just possible that they listen to the forums for feedback and did not like too much what they heard. Also likely they had some thoughts about exclusive or illegal being the only way in which a demo was being distributed which forced their hand for the first one, and it may be something they need to think about for the second one.

That angry buzzing sound coming from the ranks of the 28% who are socket-A types woke up someone in accounting...


Al Jabberwock

They probably released the demo earlier than they planned. My guess is that they were forced to release the demo because of the whole "internet leak" problem.

Also, I think I've heard that the current demo is based on beta or pre-beta code.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

This sounds good. I haven't preordered it but I've heard that amazon is providing a demo for those who have.

R'as

Edit: German release date 10.10., demo download two days prior

if that's true, thats great news!
i dont think my gfx card supports SSE2

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Must be why the current demo doesnt have the different faces and suits and stuff. Hopefully this new one will be out for everyone and will have new battles

[Polemists]

I think it's fully possible. I mean a demo is not that hard to make i would think consider the fact that not only do they have 4 weeks and our mostly done. They also have developed the code so modders seem to nto be able to crack it right away. While it might get on torrent eventually keep in mind the flood of demo ppl who got the leak was about 3 days after it as another said.

Seems possible and I hope it does, you preordered for a exclusive you should get one. I didn't preorder but I think rest of you should get something.

[NightStar]

Why waste time on the demo, rather put finishing touches on the game itself!!!!

[blahblahblah]

Must be why the current demo doesnt have the different faces and suits and stuff. Hopefully this new one will be out for everyone and will have new battles

Keep Agincourt and replace Pavia.

[hoom]

i dont think my gfx card supports SSE2

SSE2 is a CPU thing not Graphics

Must be why the current demo doesnt have the different faces and suits and stuff.

Ahhh... Mine does

Why waste time on the demo, rather put finishing touches on the game itself!!!!

Gotta agree with this actually, particularly if its true that AI is only done in the end of development.

I mean a demo is not that hard to make

Actually, there can be a lot of coding involved.
Depends a bit on the game engine/what is being restricted

[Brighdaasa]

Why waste time on the demo, rather put finishing touches on the game itself!!!!

well, because they promised Amazon an exclusive demo, and because of some mistake that demo has gone public too fast. So now they still have a contractual obligation to give them some exclusive

[Ares]

Also because they don't want to lose potential customers. They don't want the demo to give the wrong impression. For example, if the final build of the game will support Athlon XP processors, they wouldn't want their demo to give the impression that Athlon XP processors are not supported. Thus the released of a new and updated demo.

[Puzz3D]

Also because they don't want to lose potential customers. They don't want the demo to give the wrong impression. For example, if the final build of the game will support Athlon XP processors, they wouldn't want their demo to give the impression that Athlon XP processors are not supported. Thus the released of a new and updated demo.

The final build is not going to support Athlon XP processors in multiplayer. They should put a big yellow sticker on the box warning potential buyers of that.

[maestro]

We don't know that yet - they just said there were issues at the moment. Wel'l have to wait and see.

[Ares]

The final build is not going to support Athlon XP processors in multiplayer. They should put a big yellow sticker on the box warning potential buyers of that.

In multiplayer only? That seems strange. How does that even work?

[Puzz3D]

We don't know that yet - they just said there were issues at the moment. Wel'l have to wait and see.

Palamedes was quite definite that Athlon XP processor will not be supported for multiplayer in the released game due to unresolved issues. There's no time to fix those issues now because they have to go gold now to meet a Nov 14 release date. These issues may be fixed in a patch.

In multiplayer only? That seems strange. How does that even work?

In multiplayer, the only info that goes between the machines in a battle are the commands issued by the players. All the calculations that occur during a battle are made on each machine independently, and those calculations have to give exactly the same result on each machine otherwise the battle desyncs. Apparently under some battle conditions, Athlon XP's are giving a different result than Pentium's. For instance, a man might die on your machine but not on the other machines in the battle because an arrow had a slightly different trajectory, so you will go out of sync and be dropped from the battle. If the game doesn't drop you then you can play on, but you will not be seeing the same battle as everyone else in the game and it will progressively diverge until it's nothing remotely like what the other players are seeing. This isn't an issue for SP because there is only one machine involved.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Ahhh... Mine does

Strange. the only diversity in units i see is:

One colored shield, the next is a different color, then back to the first, then the second. And one white horse, then a brown, one white, 3 brown, 1 white, 1 brown.

[Furious Mental]

Mine has kinds of variation. Must be a problem at your demo.

[Ares]

Or maybe if you put it on low detail settings it doesn't show much variation? I dunno, I'm just taking a guess.

[Censor]

Oh no! The horror of it. Mathematics has returned to haunt us all! At least all the wizened Athlon XP users. Back in the day...