New demo coming (Battle of Otumba)

[Temujin]

Why waste time on the demo, rather put finishing touches on the game itself!!!!

There's a good bit of time between handing off the final build of the code/ressources and the actual release of the game. That time could be used to make a new demo without detracting from the time spent on the main game. They can't keep coding right up to the day before release, you know.

[Dan.o6]

Will a Athlon 64 work with the game?

[hoom]

For those doubting the variations in the demo: (56kers beware, these are about 600kb each)
English Longbows seem to show it the most of the Agincourt units


A fair bit on the Billmen


The French are more uniform but they are different in details




Vampire crossbows!


I dunno, maybe people are expecting like 50 different leg skins or something.
The CA "no more clones" blog post said something like:
5/7 faces/heads
3 arms
3 torsos
3 legs
10 shields
I make that nearly 2000 different possible combos

[Little Legioner]

I did my order on sendit.com. So, where is my ticket?

Besides, if they are gonna release a new demo that they put a custom battle into the game. Historic battles are full of scripts and they don't give any clear image to us.

I hope

[Ibn Munqidh]

Will a Athlon 64 work with the game?

Yes, thats what I use.

[SpencerH]

In multiplayer, the only info that goes between the machines in a battle are the commands issued by the players. All the calculations that occur during a battle are made on each machine independently, and those calculations have to give exactly the same result on each machine otherwise the battle desyncs. Apparently under some battle conditions, Athlon XP's are giving a different result than Pentium's. For instance, a man might die on your machine but not on the other machines in the battle because an arrow had a slightly different trajectory, so you will go out of sync and be dropped from the battle. If the game doesn't drop you then you can play on, but you will not be seeing the same battle as everyone else in the game and it will progressively diverge until it's nothing remotely like what the other players are seeing. This isn't an issue for SP because there is only one machine involved.

Fascinating (although I realize it sucks for Athlon users).

[LadyAnn]

Fascinating (although I realize it sucks for Athlon users).

Only AthlonXP, Athlon64, etc. will work fine.
AthlonXP is now renamed Sempron in their confusing AMD nomenclature.

[maestro]

Wrong planet.

The Sempron is a cut-down, budget version of the Athlon 64 and is a completely different core and architecture to the Athlon XP. The XP is a socket A 32bit processor and the sempron i a socket 754 or socket AM2 64bit processor.

Please ignore the above post as incorrect cause the Athlon XP hasn't been renamed Sempron at all. In fact, until the XP was discontinued, both CPUs were available concurrently.

There are still issues with the Athlon XP in multiplayer, but not any of the AMD 64bit CPUs (Athlno 64, Sempron, Opteron, X2 and FX). Which is a shame because the Athlon XP is still the most widely owned CPU in the gaming market

[Orda Khan]

Which is a shame because the Athlon XP is still the most widely owned CPU in the gaming market

Precisely the reason for this shameful state of affairs

......Orda

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

sry double post.

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

Wrong planet.
There are still issues with the Athlon XP in multiplayer, but not any of the AMD 64bit CPUs (Athlno 64, Sempron, Opteron, X2 and FX). Which is a shame because the Athlon XP is still the most widely owned CPU in the gaming market

Hopefully an Athlon 64 is enough for MP!!! My prediction: We will need cpus from the next millennium for playing 3vs3 or 4vs4 comparable with MTW vi. Otherwise they had given a 3vs3 demo to us and not such a äähh such a demo like we got.

In 3 weeks we will see it. The dev blogs make some hope.

[LadyAnn]

I guess am so confused with their naming/renaming :)

Anniep

[Polemists]

I guess no one's heard on back from this i guess 20 days away is to much I guess I should expect the new demo out 10 days away from release.

[ShellShock]

There's a good bit of time between handing off the final build of the code/ressources and the actual release of the game. That time could be used to make a new demo without detracting from the time spent on the main game. They can't keep coding right up to the day before release, you know.

Well, if they were smart they would start work immediately on the patch; I suspect there are a number of features and bugs which did not make the final cut but could be worked on for the first patch.

Also they probably need a bit of a rest.

[hoom]

Sempron

There are actually 5 different core generations of 2 primary types on 3 different sockets.

The Socket A Semprons are AthlonXP renamed & thus don't have SSE2.

The Socket 754 Sempron is a renamed Athlon64 which means they have got SSE2. (later models have SSE3 too)

There are now also Sempron for Socket AM2, again Athlon64 renamed so have SSE2

[ProudNerd]

It sucks its only for preorders tho..maybe i will get the collectors edition.

[ProudNerd]

Sempron

There are actually 5 different core generations of 2 primary types on 3 different sockets.

The Socket A Semprons are AthlonXP renamed & thus don't have SSE2.

The Socket 754 Sempron is a renamed Athlon64 which means they have got SSE2. (later models have SSE3 too)

There are now also Sempron for Socket AM2, again Athlon64 renamed so have SSE2

From Wikipedia:

CPUs supporting SSE2

* AMD Athlon 64
* AMD Athlon 64 X2
* AMD Opteron
* AMD Sempron (Socket 754/939/AM2 versions only)
* AMD Turion 64
* Intel Pentium 4
* Intel Pentium D
* Intel Pentium EE
* Intel Pentium M
* Intel Celeron (Socket 478 versions only)
* Intel Celeron D
* Intel Celeron M
* Intel Core Solo/Duo
* Intel Core 2 Solo/Duo/Extreme
* Transmeta Efficeon
* Intel Xeon
* Via C7

Notable CPUs not supporting SSE2

* Anything from Motorola, or any other CPU manufacturer not listed above

The following CPUs do not support SSE2.

* AMD Athlon
* AMD Athlon XP / MP
* AMD Duron
* AMD Sempron (Socket A versions)

* Intel Pentium II Xeon
* Intel Pentium III Xeon
* Intel Pentium II
* Intel Pentium III
* Intel Celeron (Slot 1, Socket 370)
* Intel Itanium
* Intel Itanium 2

* Via C3

* Transmeta Crusoe

* IDT Centaurs-Haul Winchip

* and any older CPUs

i have a sempy 754 but i just got a am2 64 3500 with an asus mobo for $250au :D

BTW why do i ahve to wait forever for post its a really long time

[blahblahblah]

For those doubting the variations in the demo: (56kers beware, these are about 600kb each)
English Longbows seem to show it the most of the Agincourt units


A fair bit on the Billmen


The French are more uniform but they are different in details




Vampire crossbows!


I dunno, maybe people are expecting like 50 different leg skins or something.
The CA "no more clones" blog post said something like:
5/7 faces/heads
3 arms
3 torsos
3 legs
10 shields
I make that nearly 2000 different possible combos

Dam man, are they reverting their interface back to MTW style for this demo and the finished product?

[CBR]

Dam man, are they reverting their interface back to MTW style for this demo and the finished product?

You can use the regular UI that is very similar to the one introduced in RTW, or the minimal UI seen in the screenshots.


CBR

[ProudNerd]

Dam man, are they reverting their interface back to MTW style for this demo and the finished product?

yes there is a checkbox to use the minimul UI or the full "battle hud" Minimal is soooooo much better!

[PROMETHEUS]

so few days and we get a new demo or is it only for the ones who preordered?

[Dave1984]

You can use the regular UI that is very similar to the one introduced in RTW, or the minimal UI seen in the screenshots.


CBR

As an aside, did the UI in MTW have the same "hide" options as on the M2TW demo?
I don't have a copy of it anymore to check, but if it didn't, then it's a feature I'm certainly pleased to see!

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Just got an e-mail off CA - available from 9AM GMT Tuesday to those who have pre-ordered, and Otumba is the new battle!

[Dave1984]

Just got an e-mail off CA - available from 9AM GMT Tuesday to those who have pre-ordered, and Otumba is the new battle!

That's not a bad prize for those of us who waited! (I.E. Not me.)

[hoetje]

I've had that mail too :

Pre-order frenzy is gripping the Total War community. In partnership with Amazon.co.uk we are now able to offer a juicy bonus for those who have pre-ordered via the site - AN ENHANCED MEDIEVAL II DEMO!



On October 24th at 9 am UK time anyone who has pre-ordered Medieval II via Amazon.co.uk will receive an email detailing access to the new demo, which features the awe inspiring Battle of Otumba! For the first time witness the clash of two great civilisations as the Spanish clash with the exotic Aztec Empire!


It's not too late to pre-order so to gain exclusive early access to this demo, make your way over to Amazon.co.uk now!



EARLY ACCES...so this means people who didn't preorder will get it too,right?

[Bob the Insane]

Well after the last demo I do not think any of the campanies involved are nieve enough to think this demo will not rapidly spread over the internet...

While the majority of us resist the temptations of priracy, spreading a demo around which is really just a piece of advertising is hardly morally reprehensable...

[CBR]

As an aside, did the UI in MTW have the same "hide" options as on the M2TW demo?
I don't have a copy of it anymore to check, but if it didn't, then it's a feature I'm certainly pleased to see!

Yes the same F keys were used in MTW.


CBR

[PROMETHEUS]

I cant preorder , I want the Italian version .....

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Then why not pre-order and then cancel once you have the demo? Its what I plan to do!

[hoetje]

will you be able to do that?Not quite sure