Music Industry Sues 8,000 More People

[sharrukin]

Sharrukin if their update did delete the songs then that is more then likely illegal, and also called stealing, you may want to call their support center. Anyways back to making backup copies of music.

Its only stealing when the little people do it! Corporations are simply renegotiating the contract. I don't think there is anything they haven't covered in the contract.

I back up every thing these days. I have the songs now anyway so there support isn't really needed.

THE CONTRACT (parts of it anyway)
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[lars573]

These lawsuits just make the corporate side of music look like idiots. It doesn't curb illegal downloading. They shut down or neuter one method more take their place.

Personally I would use a legal downlaoding service, under a few conditions.

1.It's not run by Apple.
I'll never give Apple computers a dime of my money. I prefer the devil I know (Microsoft)
2.It has selection. I though about using Futurshop's Xfire service. I looked around and there was nothing I wanted to hear, and thus wasn't worth it. I suspect that fellow metal head Gorebag can relate.
3.It doesn't treat me like a criminal.


As it stands the only album I've bough in 4 years is Rammesteins Reise Reise.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

The industry is screwed

Actually the whole entertainment industry is screwed as far as the way we know it. I work for a CD and DVD distributer and also am a projectionist. All the small record stores are closing because no one wants to buy music anymore. Infact were getting ready to close our retail department . The big companies dont suffer however only the middlemen like us. They will figure a way to make their profits. About a year or two ago they actually dropped all their prices 33%. That meant we and all other stores lost 33% in inventory. Would you believe we can import many new CDs from Argentina for only 3 dollars each?

The DVD industry is also a mess. Last year I went to a convention and some company had invented a new copyright protection they said was unbreakable. A couple of hacks at the show broke it in less than half an hour. Now there going to a new format. But not just one but two. Just like they did with Beta and VHS. So now everyone is screwed until one becomes dominant.

It wont be long until all your entertainment including new movie releases will be provided and played on your computer and the world of entertainment we grew up with will be a thing of the past

[yesdachi]

They shut down or neuter one method more take their place.

The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

[lars573]

Yep. That's why I'll keep downloading communism.

[whyidie]

Amount of music CD's I bought where the lead singer was not a cat or dog, prior to 2000: 0

Amount of music CD's I bought during the Napster heyday : 4

Amount of music CD's I have bought since the decline: 0

I have bought music from the Apple store though. Thats a business model I can support.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

brought like 2-3 CD's, and rest I downloaded, only a few songs though, not a big music fan over at my part..

[Prince of the Poodles]

Limewire and expensive CDs with like one good song on them have ruined me on buying new music.

I am willing to pay for albums filled with quality music even though I could download it, but most of those are from the 60s and 70s. 8)