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    Ming the Merciless is my idol Senior Member Watchman's Avatar
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    Apparently I recently ran into a little loophole in the governement/MIC system. I captured an enemy city I wasn't planning to keep and duly massacred the populace and dismantled everything I could for quick cash. Then I cranked the tax to max and the army continued elsewhere - no garrison, happiness 0%, oughta revolt soon right ?

    Something like twenty turns later I'm still kind of wondering when that completely empty city is going to stop just rioting and will start actually rebelling - to the former owner or Eleutheroi - out of my control.

    I figure the prolem is that with neither MIC nor a governement building in the city it cannot "spawn" any military units at all that could take over the place and thus remains under my control, happiness solidly stuck at zero and the riot message popping up about every other turn.

    I'm thinking I should build the minimum-level MIC and the cheap-ass Type 4 governement so the place can revolt properly; right now it feels like an exploit (since I still get the tax money), and I can't even pawn the place off to any other faction.
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    Default Re: Rioting oddity

    Is the town in the sahara? There are many in the sahara that do this. I have been told that it has to do with the fact that the rebels can't recruit units in the territory (though I edited the buildings file so that they could recruit units here and it still didn't rebel).


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    Nah. It's one of those on the Aegean east coast - Mytilene if I recall the name correctly, that one on the isle of Lesbos. (Should it matter I'm playing with the Getai and the town's previous owners were the Macs, who gobbled up the KH a while ago.)
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    I think the problem is tied to either the founding faction (the town doesn't know who to revert to), or the town can't train any units to garrison the newly rebel town. Probably the later. Either way I don't think it matters who you are or who you took if from. I believe that this same problem is tied to a CTD when a AI faction that holds one of these towns loses all its family members. (I failed to test this theory fully.)


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    ...or the town can't train any units to garrison the newly rebel town.
    That's what I'm suspecting too - inability to generate troops to "capture" the settlement from the inside, as it were. I'll have to see if building a governement and MIC has an effect.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    nah its neither fellas. I have that happen to me in ALL my 3 campains (aedui, KH, and Makedonia).

    With KH I have taken 4 towns destroyed everthing and LEFT (no garrison no governor) and the towns have not rebelled. BUT if I seed a small garrison there, there is a BIG chance the it will rebel back and it WILL have units.

    I have destoyed every building and exterminated the population 3X of one of the towns in the Mid East (now the pop is 400+) AND it rebelled with Heratoi(sp) and Hypastasies.

    There is a MAJOR issue with city happines that needs to be fixed.

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