The Godfather, Part 2 [Concluded]

[Dutch_guy]

Vote:Csar

[Crazed Rabbit]

Vote: Husar

Crazed Rabbit

[Csargo]

Vote: Husar

[Divine Wind]

Vote: Csar

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote count:

Csar: 4
Husar: 2

Keep 'em coming, people. The mafia are going to try to even this out soon.

[Masy]

Of course the PM was fake. I just wanted to sway voting away from Myrddraal, the person who I was sure was innocent.

Or the person who was your mafia co-conspirator...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Believe what you want. But you'll see once the voting is over that I *was* innocent.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Husar voted for both GH and Myrddraal who were lynched by narrow margins (one vote in each case I believe). End of story.

GH is pressing for a vote on Csar... I know he has been lying on at least a couple of occations. I should not vote for Csar.

Myrddraal is wanting a vote for either DW or me.

If Myrddraal and GH both are mafia, they are diverting attention from Husar.

I think you've fallen for GH's reverse psychology here. He knows we think he's guilty so he goes on about how his Godfather is guilty, making sure to jump in quickly with a vote on him. Your first sentence here is exactly what he was hoping for. Myrddraal hasn't posted suspicions in a while I don't know who he's pushing for anymore. But remember people:

• GeneralHankerchief and Myrddraal were mafia
  
• Husar put the final vote on both of them
  
• Therefore he can't be Godfather.

Vote:Csar

[Husar]

Vote: Csar

Thank you very much Digurd, as Sasaki already pointed out I got both GH and Myrd killed, if they were my henchmen, why would I do that?
I am now waiting for someone to come up with a weird reason why I would do that.

[Csargo]

Vote: Csar

Thank you very much Digurd, as Sasaki already pointed out I got both GH and Myrd killed, if they were my henchmen, why would I do that?
I am now waiting for someone to come up with a weird reason why I would do that.

An ingenious cover maybe? Why not vote for them when it's almost certain they'll be lynched? Takes suspicion off you since you vote for the the two known "mafioso" while it gives you a perfect cover. While not it's an ingenious cover for you while it takes the heat off of you in later rounds.

[Husar]

An ingenious cover maybe? Why not vote for them when it's almost certain they'll be lynched? Takes suspicion off you since you vote for the the two known "mafioso" while it gives you a perfect cover. While not it's an ingenious cover for you while it takes the heat off of you in later rounds.

Yes, of course, and that GH started a bandwagon on me and almost had me lynched was most likely one of our really smart tricks or what?

[Csargo]

Yes, of course, and that GH started a bandwagon on me and almost had me lynched was most likely one of our really smart tricks or what?

I don't remember anything like that.

[Kommodus]

There's something I don't get right now. Sasaki and GH have been sparring all the way through this game; they've scarcely agreed upon anything all the way through. So how is it that they suddenly agree that Csar is the one to lynch?

The two possible mafia gang configurations we've been presented with so far have been Sasaki/Seamus/Other and GH/Myrddraal/Other. The "Other" slot has never been filled.

I just had this wierd scenario pop into my mind, in which Husar was the Godfather, Sasaki and Seamus were his grunts, Myrddraal was the real detective, and GeneralHankerchief was a "fake" detective - the twist in this game being that instead of a mafia mastermind, there was an undercover mafioso among the two "detectives."

In this scenario, Sasaki and GH have staged this entire conflict, manufacturing two opposing factions so that we all have two choices, both of which are wrong. We have all been puppets unwittingly responding to their commands!

Now this is just an idea right now. I'll log in later and go back through the thread to see if this theory explains what we've observed. I don't suggest anyone vote based on what I've said yet; I'm not voting yet myself. There's still time to weigh the evidence and decide, which is what I intend to do.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Vote: Csar

Since I am now a zombie, am I required to dance the Time Warp while voting?

[GeneralHankerchief]

There's something I don't get right now. Sasaki and GH have been sparring all the way through this game; they've scarcely agreed upon anything all the way through. So how is it that they suddenly agree that Csar is the one to lynch?

The two possible mafia gang configurations we've been presented with so far have been Sasaki/Seamus/Other and GH/Myrddraal/Other. The "Other" slot has never been filled.

I just had this wierd scenario pop into my mind, in which Husar was the Godfather, Sasaki and Seamus were his grunts, Myrddraal was the real detective, and GeneralHankerchief was a "fake" detective - the twist in this game being that instead of a mafia mastermind, there was an undercover mafioso among the two "detectives."

In this scenario, Sasaki and GH have staged this entire conflict, manufacturing two opposing factions so that we all have two choices, both of which are wrong. We have all been puppets unwittingly responding to their commands!

Now this is just an idea right now. I'll log in later and go back through the thread to see if this theory explains what we've observed. I don't suggest anyone vote based on what I've said yet; I'm not voting yet myself. There's still time to weigh the evidence and decide, which is what I intend to do.

K, easy on the conspiracy theories. The last time Sasaki and I worked together (Godfather 1) he defended me and together we started bandwagons (and halted each others' just to start a new one ). We didn't go after each other mercilessly like this.

Sheesh.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

There's something I don't get right now. Sasaki and GH have been sparring all the way through this game; they've scarcely agreed upon anything all the way through. So how is it that they suddenly agree that Csar is the one to lynch?

The two possible mafia gang configurations we've been presented with so far have been Sasaki/Seamus/Other and GH/Myrddraal/Other. The "Other" slot has never been filled.

I just had this wierd scenario pop into my mind, in which Husar was the Godfather, Sasaki and Seamus were his grunts, Myrddraal was the real detective, and GeneralHankerchief was a "fake" detective - the twist in this game being that instead of a mafia mastermind, there was an undercover mafioso among the two "detectives."

In this scenario, Sasaki and GH have staged this entire conflict, manufacturing two opposing factions so that we all have two choices, both of which are wrong. We have all been puppets unwittingly responding to their commands!

Now this is just an idea right now. I'll log in later and go back through the thread to see if this theory explains what we've observed. I don't suggest anyone vote based on what I've said yet; I'm not voting yet myself. There's still time to weigh the evidence and decide, which is what I intend to do.

heh. Quite a few things wrong with this.

GeneralH is just trying to use reverse psychology as mentioned before.

rtwGuru was the detective, yes?

I got GeneralH lynched, with Husar voting for him, at a time when everyone believed him to be detective.

What was the advantage to GH getting me lynched and having to kill only one per round?

[Kommodus]

Alright, alright, I said I wasn't ready to vote yet, I still have to go back over the thread... which unfortunately I don't have time for right now.

Maybe this game has made me a little more paranoid (not in RL, just in mafia games) due to being lynched as the result of a friendly, unrelated PM. What are ya gonna do?

And now, GH and Sasaki both shoot my hair-brained idea down within two minutes of each other?

Now I'm even more paranoid.

[Csargo]

Yes, of course, and that GH started a bandwagon on me and almost had me lynched was most likely one of our really smart tricks or what?

It backfired. It's obvious from when you read it that it's was a horrible bandwagon attempt by GH all he did was vote for you with no reason I can't see why anyone would of followed that and obviously that's probably what GH thought too.

[Ignoramus]

Vote: Csar

I have been suspicious of him for a while. He is guilty.

[Csargo]

Well this is pointless isn't it might as well get myself killed since no one is even paying attention to anything I say.

[Death Match]

This is my formal apology for everybody in the game.

I am really sorry for ruining the game by accidently breaking the rules.

Please understand this is my first Forum Game, and I am bound to make mistakes.

theRTWGuru

[Ignoramus]

That's alright. I can't even remember what rule you broke.

[Husar]

I remember everything, but I think it was pretty obviously a mistake, everyone makes mistakes sometimes, it's all fine.

[Ignoramus]

No one holds it against you; everyone makes mistakes, just sit back and enjoy the write-up of Csar's mafia defeat.

[Sir Moody]

well i think weve lost allready but for the sake of my zombie vote

Vote: husar

[Don Corleone]

Hey RTWGuru, God knows I've blown plenty of things this game. I almost got lynched for being too newbiesh at the beginning. Personally, I'm surprised I didn't get lynched anyway, just for being stupid. Your revelation didn't actually ruin anything, as it was a wrinkle, and we didn't know whether to believe you or others. Sit back and watch ole Godfather Csar swing from the gallows.

Vote from beyond: Csar

[Sigurd]

If you are the Godfather Husar, you have played a risky game and I shall reward you for it by a vote on Csar.

Vote:Csar

[Kommodus]

Well, Csar's behavior has been suspicious to be sure. Maybe you're all correct to lynch him. However, my heart tells me all is not as it seems.

The mafia's strategy has been excellent in this game. There is a real possibility that an elaborate hoax has been perpetrated on us, with mafia conspirators pretending to fight among themselves in order to create a false choice for the townsfolk - a situation in which we are forced to make one of two choices, both of which are wrong.

Note: Reminds me a bit of the American political system.

Regardless, though I don't expect to be followed, I'm going to:

Vote: Husar

Crazed Rabbit, I'm standing by for your tomato barrage. I see you were right - only it's too little, too late.

[Proletariat]

I really doubt it's either, I think we all got played by Sigurd again... But out of the two, Husar's had me convinced longer through the chat that he's clean.

Vote: Csar

[Kommodus]

I really doubt it's either, I think we all got played by Sigurd again... But out of the two, Husar's had me convinced longer through the chat that he's clean.

No offense Prole... you are fairly new to mafia games... but experience has shown that the chatroom is one of the mafia's best friends. Many previous mafiosos, including myself, have used it to convince townsfolk of our innocence.

The above fact should make you extra suspicious of Husar.