The Godfather, Part 2 [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm. Sigurd's PM reasoning is not convincing in the slightest. However Kommodus' defence does not sound innocent and I already had a good reason to vote him.

I'd say that's actually the most convincing thing so far.

Sorry, was confused.

[Myrddraal]

Hmm yep, bad choice of words there.

[Csargo]

Alright Kommodus you gave a pretty good defence and considering you are leading the votes, a convincing one.
I will now put forth my evidence and suspicion and we will see if the townies agree with my conclusion.

On the eve of the very start of this game after Silver’s first announcement that he had sent PM’s out, I got a pm while surfing the .org and I think I was looking at some profiles.
My heart was jumping and I expected to find Silver’s Godfather PM there. Mind you my heart did not jump for joy.
The pm was from you Kommodus. And first I thought nothing of it, but later I found it highly suspicious.
This is it:

Why did you send me this? You knew I would give a full answer as I did and spent some time in the PM typing up the answer. Anyone monitoring pm activity would have caught me sending a pm at that crucial moment. Considering you hiding your activity no-one could have seen your pm’ing.
I think you are the Godfather as Silver had a round of role distribution after all this as well.
I think it has been a while since I mentioned anything about my career in the military and your pm strikes me as a diversion especially since you never replied with a thanx or a comment. Maybe it was because I told you in my pm that I got a little afraid that I had been assigned a role. You realised your mistake and hoped I would forget all about it.
If all the above is just nothing, I still believe you a candidate for being chosen by the Godfather.
My vote stands.

I think this is too much of a coincidence on Kommodus's part. Seems very suspicious on his part plus it seems pointless. A good cover I think so my vote stays.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ok, just to clear a few things up:

Yes, I did catch DoH PMing up a storm the first night of Cosa Nouva. I also checked his recent posts to see if any were PM-worthy. None were. It's a reason I was somewhat angered at Sigurd for posting how to beat my Big Brother method.

I did PM Seamus the evidence (screenshots), but with a request that he not reveal that these came from me. I guess that's moot now. I did tell a couple of other people in the chat why I suspected DoH (and persuaded Csar and Disco to change their votes to him) but did not give them the evidence.

I suspect that this is why Sigurd told me before everyone else. Maybe he wanted an ally to take a threat out of the game. Maybe he was being truthful and wanted to get a mafioso. But for now, the evidence against Kommodus does seem shaky. My vote stands, but there had better be only one kill next round.

[Sigurd]

BTW Sigurd, why did you think Kommodus was the Godfather specifically? Instead of just a mafioso.

I think it was the timing of his PM, just minutes after Silver's first announcing that roles had been PM'd.
I believe in Silver's game the role of Godfather is handed out first. The Godfather then choses his henchmen and PM Silver the list. There is a second round of role distribution. Kommodus' timing was just after the first role distribution.

As I said, I didn't think of the possibility at first, bit then suspicion washed over me.

[Death Match]

It looks like people are looking to solve the mystery... But do not worry. I am very sure that we, the townspeople, will win. Seriously, why not? I mean.... well....

[Silver Rusher]

*****Voting Closed*****

[Don Corleone]

Anybody wanna bet we see 2 kills this round?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Would the godfather getting killed affect the amount of kills?

CR

[Kommodus]

*****Voting Closed*****

YES! Does this mean I win?

FYI, whether we see two kills or one next round doesn't indicate much. For all you non-vets out there, in the original Godfather the mafia deliberately reduced their kills to one per turn after the first lynch simply to fool the townspeople. It worked perfectly; everyone thought they'd got a mafioso, and the mafia rode this wave of deception all the way to a complete victory.

So basically, there are multiple reasons why the number of kills might be reduced to one; successfully having lynched a mafioso is only one possibility. The mafia may use it as a deception tactic, or one of the mafia goons may fail to communicate his instructions on time.

Man oh man, I can't wait; this execution is gonna be so much fuuuuuun...

EDIT: CR, once the Godfather dies the game is over, even if the other mafia goons are still out there.

[Csargo]

Would the godfather getting killed affect the amount of kills?

CR

The Godfather dieing ends the game ending in a Townspeople Victory.

Edit:oops too late

[Silver Rusher]

Evening in the Gameroom.

Chief of Police Divine Wind sat in a boat on the Gameroom Pond with Kommodus, who was about to be executed. DW stood to address the angry mob.

"Settle down now, settle down..." DW's voice was barely heard above the rants of the townspeople.

"Kill the filthy mafioso!"

"His evil wrath will surely cause the deaths of our children!"

"He's too crafty, if you don't get him now he could escape!"

"QUIET YOU DISRESPETABLE BUNDLE OF OAFS!" DW unusually managed to gain control of the mob this way. "Listen. You have chosen to kill Kommodus today. Very well. I shall go out into the lake in the boat and push him off. He has weights attatched to his feet, so he won't be able to swim out."

"Can I say a few words?" A voice was heard from beside DW. It belonged to Kommodus. DW nodded.

"Three cheers for the intrepid townsfolk," Kommodus began in a theatrical tone, "who have bravely murdered one of their finest citizens! Let the mafia rejoice and be glad, for they have been spared the trouble of bringing down their greatest foe! But woe, woe unto you, oh city of folly; for if this is how the innocent are treated, then how shall the guilty fare?"

The sound of crickets became surprisingly strong at that moment. A tumbleweed even rolled past some of the villagers. Divine Wind was looking at his watch.

Kommodus raised his arms and looked to the sky. "Ever thus have they treated the prophets and apostles sent to them. Forgive them, for they understand not their er-"

At this point, DW, still looking at his watch, muttered: "That's lovely, Kommodus" before giving him a little shove. This shove was enough to send him plunging straight into the depths of the lake, but the weights got caught in the boat and so it capsised.

Divine Wind swam to the surface just in time to see Kommodus' pail hand reaching out for the surface. It sunk slowly back into the water.

Tally:
Kommodus - 8 votes (Csar, GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, Myrddraal, Sasaki Kojiro, Seamus Fermanagh, Sigurd Fafnesbane, theRTWGuru)
Don Corleone - 3 votes (Husar, Sir Moody, Xiahou)
Abstain - 4 (Big King Sanctaphrax, Cowhead418, Evil_Maniac From Mars, Peasant Phill)
Peasant Phil - 1 vote (Don Corleone)
Husar - 1 vote (Proletariat)
Not Voting - 8 (Byzantine Mercenary, Crazed Rabbit, Destroyer of Hope, Drisos, Dutch_guy, Kommodus, Masy)

Status List

Killed By Mafia:
Lemur
UltraWar
Major Robert Dump

Lynched:
Drisos
Kommodus

Still alive:
Sasaki Kojiro
Masy
Big King Sanctaphrax
Csar
GeneralHankerchief
Proletariat
Don Corleone
Seamus Fernanagh
Byzantine Mercenary
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Xiahou
Peasant Phill
Sir Moody
Cowhead418
Kommodus
Dutch_guy
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Husar
Destroyer of Hope
theRTWGuru
Divine Wind
Myrddraal

PM's please. That includes you, DW. By the way, one thing I forgot to mention before was that the Chief of Police can't vote, but does not receive warnings.

[Don Corleone]

. For all you non-vets out there, in the original Godfather the mafia deliberately reduced their kills to one per turn after the first lynch simply to fool the townspeople. It worked perfectly; everyone thought they'd got a mafioso, and the mafia rode this wave of deception all the way to a complete victory.

This would only work for the mafia if they feel so unthreatened, they could live with just getting one kill a round. You start shaking the trees and making them nervous and that second body will start showing up every night, just as soon as you get close enough to make them nervous.

That's why I made the prediction that we're going to get 2 kills tonight. I think we're getting into the discussion really early and that's gotta be making them nervous.

[Don Corleone]

Uhm, Silver, you forgot to update the lynched list to include Kommodus.

[Kommodus]

Uhm, Silver, you forgot to update the lynched list to include Kommodus.

Yeah, he's right! I'm supposed to be deader than a mummy!

Well, that was fun. To the Godfather and his mafiosi I say this: I hope you were as amused by all this as I was. I sense that this is going to be quite a game.

[Don Corleone]

Wait a minute... is this the twist? That Kommodus, despite being sent to the bottom of the lake, didn't drown? Just in time for Halloween eh?

Vote: Kommodus

Method: Stake through heart, beheading and silver bullet, for good measure.

[Kommodus]

Wait a minute... is this the twist? That Kommodus, despite being sent to the bottom of the lake, didn't drown? Just in time for Halloween eh?

Vote: Kommodus

Method: Stake through heart, beheading and silver bullet, for good measure.

Brrraaaaaaaiiiiinsssss.... Muuuuusssssst conssssuuume biiiig, juuuicy brraaaaaaaiiiinssssss....

Oh yes, and also, I vant to suck your blood.

[Don Corleone]

You forgot to howl, but thanks for getting the references.

[Divine Wind]

PM's please. That includes you, DW. By the way, one thing I forgot to mention before was that the Chief of Police can't vote, but does not receive warnings.

Now im confused. I cant vote, but I can be lynched? So all I get to do is choose the executions...

Thats slightly pants.

[Silver Rusher]

Uhm, Silver, you forgot to update the lynched list to include Kommodus.

Dammit, I'm losing it here.

[Cowhead418]

Vote: Silver Rusher - I find his supposedly innocent mistakes suspicious...

[Csargo]

Dammit, I'm losing it here.

It's alright Silver I'm pretty sure it's hard to run one of these games.

[Kommodus]

FYI, the write-up for Cosa Nuova is up - go check it out if you're interested!

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Now im confused. I cant vote, but I can be lynched? So all I get to do is choose the executions...

Thats slightly pants.

Can't be murdered either. So if things go ill, you get to attend all of the funerals.

Nice touch choosing a noyade -- particularly cruel.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Townies all:

Out of town for all of Saturday and most of Sunday to attend an exemplification of the 4th degree (KofC). I'll scan things when I'm back.

[Don Corleone]

This is messed up. The mafia is screwing with us. There's no way we've nailed two of them. I doubt we've even nailed one. Talk about cheesy tricks. Okay, sorry Sigfurd, just too obvious. "Trust you, and all the mafia go away" and then they all do?

Vote: Sigfurd

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm Don, usually the kills aren't posted with the execution, last turn was an exception.

[Don Corleone]

Ruh roh.

Unvote: Sigfurd
Vote: Abstain (but I got my eye on you...)

[Ignoramus]

I think Divine Wind is one of the mafia, possibly the Godfather.

This is what Major Robert Dump said on the revote between Drisos and Divine Wind: (it's post #189)

"Oh dear, I needs to sleep on this.

on second thought, since I can't edit, my vote still stands with Divine Wind. I don't like the chief of Police role as the likelihood that he could be mafia, so I'll vote the Chief no matter who it is. Sorry DW, its best to keep the untouchable Chief-thingy rotating. Of course, any detective please feel free to chime in via a PM and I may change my vote if I beleive you, either way I think I'm doomed to a horrible death...theres no reason to believe I'm not mafia, and no reason for the mafia not to kill me.

In my own defense, the selection of Drisos seemed purely numerical circumstance. The only person I don't trust is all of you. If Drisos were CP I would vote him just as well.

vote: Divine Wind"

Notice that MRD gets killed when Drisos gets executed?(I presume that was Silver's way of making up lost time)

Then Divine Wind kills Sigurd Fafnesbane because of one of two reasons:

1.) Kommodus is also in the mafia, therefore DW is taking revenge for Kommodus' death.

2.) Sigurd was getting to be too investigative, and may have gotten close to the mafia.

And about DW asking the detective to investigate him, how do we know that Lemur or UltraWar weren't the detective? They may have made a slight slip up, alerting the mafia to their role.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Isn't Sigurd alive?