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    Isn't Sigurd alive?
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    Why isn't anyone posting? Play my game!
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    Why isn't anyone posting? Play my game!
    You really, really sound like Mafia somehow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    You really, really sound like Mafia somehow.
    Yes indeed, highly suspicious.

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    Oh well, he was talking about his own mafia game, it's not my fault, I cannot be bothered to read each and every thread here.
    But I could just as well have quoted his previous post, he uses too many dots and didn't post anything productive here so far.


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    Vote: Abstain
    There haven't been any kills since the last lynching.


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    Yeah, shouldn't Silver rusher be posting a kill or two here pretty soon?
    "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
    Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.

    "Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
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    Day breaks in the Gameroom. All is quiet.

    Byzantine Mercenary, sleeping late, did not hear the slight noise of an intruder breaking into his house. As a matter of fact, he didn't hear anything until some duct tape was ripped off its roll about ten centimeters away from him.

    "Huh? Whu-?" That was all he got out before the tape was placed over his mouth.

    He tried to struggle, but the mafioso punched him in the stomach. Byz, with the wind knocked out of him, could do nothing but catch his breath and watch as the mafioso taped his remaining limbs, as well as his neck, to the mattress.

    The mafioso then lifted the mattress (with Byz still on it) off of the bed, and dragged it outside. He proceeded to load it into the back of a van, with the words "Vincenzo's Guttering" on the side. The mafioso got into the front seat of the van and started to drive.

    After about 15 minutes, he stopped at a familiar spot - the Gameroom pond, site of last night's execution. After opening the back, he took out the mattress and Byz, and strapped four thirty-kilo weights to it.

    "This is where you get off," he said to Byz. "Say hello to Kommodus."

    The mafioso, with some struggle, dragged the mattress/Byz/weights to the edge of the pond. Finally, he took out a pistol and shot Byz once, in the same spot where he was punched.

    "Just to make sure you won't be going anywhere."

    The mafioso pushed the mattress into the water and drove away, leaving Byzantine Mercenary to sink and bleed to death.

    Later that morning, Chief of Police Divine Wind stepped up to address the crowd.

    "Villagers, we have been hit by another disaster. Byzantine Mercenary was a good friend to many of us and a loyal, devoted citizen. It is a royal shame he had to be murdered. Such a charitable, honest-"

    BANG. A loud gunshot was heard, and a Cessna Skyhawk flew into view.

    "YAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!" the voice inside the plane was screaming out desperately as the white machine almost lost control and fuel began leaking. The pilot kept control of the plane, fortunately.

    BANG. A second gunshot. This time, it hit the fuel tank again but the friction against the metal side caused it to set alight, and there was an explosion. The plane soon became a fiery inferno, with parts scattered across the ground. DW walked over to the charred corpse, picked up a stick and flipped the head over. The corpse belonged to Sir Moody.

    Divine Wind turned to the villagers. "This is barbaric," he begun, "and so it must be dealt with using barbaric means. The next person to receive your votes will be stoned to death, and everyone must be involved. Get voting."


    Status List

    Killed By Mafia:
    Lemur
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    Major Robert Dump
    Byzantine Mercenary
    Sir Moody

    Lynched:
    Drisos
    Kommodus

    Still alive:
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Masy
    Big King Sanctaphrax
    Csar
    GeneralHankerchief
    Proletariat
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    Seamus Fernanagh
    Evil_Maniac From Mars
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    Ignoramus
    Xiahou
    Peasant Phill
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    Sigurd Fafnesbane
    Husar
    Destroyer of Hope
    theRTWGuru
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    THE GODFATHER, PART 2
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    And neither of them had said anything yet... interesting.
    "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
    Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.

    "Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
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    Kommodus is in the Still Alive column Silver.
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    We can get 2 things from this.

    1. They are probably looking for the detective, lurking is often detective behavior.
    2. They themselves are not lurking, because killing lurkers would increase the likelihood of a mafioso being lynched for lurking.

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    It is interesting to note that the mafia have abandoned the one kill a turn trick, at least now we know for certain we're still dealing with the two of them. And the godfather of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
    It is interesting to note that the mafia have abandoned the one kill a turn trick, at least now we know for certain we're still dealing with the two of them. And the godfather of course.
    Yeah, so you guys are already sure you lynched me innocent :P

    Good analysis in the last post, Sasaki.

    Husar might be a nice one to lynch. Don't listen to me on that though, just intuition, and in most cases is has been wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
    It is interesting to note that the mafia have abandoned the one kill a turn trick, at least now we know for certain we're still dealing with the two of them. And the godfather of course.

    Oh, and I just noticed that, byz is the same person who there was an attempt against last turn. Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Oh, and I just noticed that, byz is the same person who there was an attempt against last turn. Huh.
    You noticed too eh?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Well the mafia have admitted that none of them have been killed off yet, and that going to one kill after Drisos was a ruse. This may be an attempt to portray the people who voted for Drisos as innocent. As such, here is a list of people who voted for Drisos the first and second rounds of voting:

    Cowhead418
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    2 things - I'm not disagreeing with you here about lynching, I'm just making a point:

    1. If we lynch a mafioso, that means that only ONE person will be killed the next night, not two.

    2. If we lynch the Godfather, we win. We don't need to execute his henchmen to achieve victory.

    For now, I Vote: Drisos for using some sketchy reasoning. If you noticed, Divine Wind did not use the Snowman in Cosa Nuova and was innocent despite the change in behavior. I agree with Sasaki here. We have to get everyone into the discussion. If the mafia barely have to talk, then they can avoid attention. This is what happened in the last Godfather - there was very little discussion so I easily avoided suspicion. The last time I tried to promote discussion I got lynched, but I urge the town to not allow the lurkers or one-liners to get-by so easily this time around.

    Sasaki Kojiro
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    Lynching based on who was killed is a terrible idea. At this stage the mafia is choosing who to kill with the intent of creating a red herring.

    We should instead vote based on who would be chosen mafioso by the Godfather.

    Unvote:Don Corleone
    Vote:Drisos

    I'd choose him if I was Godfather. He always seems so innocent.

    Crazed Rabbit
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    *CR is finishing his steak and hears the news of Don C's change in heart*

    Wonderful news. I forgive you Don.

    Unvote: Don C
    Vote: Drisos

    I wonder if he wants the CoP lynched so he can install one of his fellow mafioso?

    Mainly a discussion vote.

    Crazed Rabbit


    Second Round of Voting on Drisos:

    Dutch_guy
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    Vote: Drisos

    I don't think it's best if we rotate our chief of police, yet. We have no evidence against him, and if there ever will be I'm sure the detective will find out.
    It just doens't feel right to change the CoP now, what if he's innocent and we put a mafioso on the position ?

    Sorry Drisos, but this just seems best to me.

    Seamus Fermanagh
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    Vote: Drisos

    I accept the idea that someone has to go -- but I'd like to see others commenting more. The only real purpose to an early execution -- aside from the Godfather catching the chop due to random luck -- is to generate voting records and commentary/rationale for same to produce a body of evidence.

    So far, the primary reason for Divine Wind getting cross-bolted to a wall is that another Godfather in another game got picked as the police chief, so that requires us to kill our top cop immediately in this game. His posting behavior hasn't been outlandish, so....

    Mind you, I hope a detective has done a quick exam of D.W., since he can only get whacked in a lynching, we'll need some warning if he is hinky.

    The surprisingly resilient Drisos (btw, lethal injection is better, too many people don't die promptly when electrocuted!!) drew a modicum of suspicion for the style of his early discussion. This is thin evidence at best, and I was tempted to abstain for that reason, but I will support the effort to move forward.

    Silver, if possible, a list of votes with names/initials at the executions would help us tally/excel chart geeks keep up. My chart still does not jibe with yours

    Sasaki Kojiro
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    Vote:Drisos

    The first round is the round where the Chief of Police is least likely to be mafia. With less people there is a greater chance of him being a mafioso. If we leave the same person as CoP the detective can investigate him instead of having to investigate each new CoP.


    GeneralHankerchief
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    We're giving the Detective way too much trouble if we keep killing off our cops. Let him get a good read on DW first.

    Vote: Drisos

    Divine Wind
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    Gah!

    Well im sure your probably innocent Drisos, but I have to look after my own skin mate.

    Vote: Drisos

    Id just like to remind the detective to investigate me, and see im an innocent Chief of Police just trying to make a living.

    If I am investigated and proved innocent, I will benefit the town as I will be one less person that can be touched by the Mafia, raising the chances of us actually lynching one of them. This will be useful at the end of the game, as i would be one less suspect. I realise the detective wont reveal im innocent for quite a few rounds, but its worth keeping me for the reason I cant actually be touched.

    Something to think about I guess.

    Oh and question for Silver Rusher. If I am killed can I still think up the executions?

    Major Robert Dump -DEAD by Mafia
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    unvote: divine wind
    vote: drisos

    One vote is shaky as the other. You're right about the detective vs the CoP. We will never find out as the detective takes a day to get results.

    As for me saying the detective should send PMs and possibly getting PMs from people who were posing as the detective, well thats exactly what I want, thats exactly what I would expect, and I don't see why Silver would disapprove as it adds substance and confusion to the game. I'm not mafia, but alas no one took the bait into trying to fool the nooblet

    Big King Sanctaphrax
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    Vote: Drisos.

    There's not very much between them, to be honest, but voting for the CoP on the basis that GH was mafia in the last game seems like a really silly idea, so Drisos it is.

    Are we allowed to reveal ourselves as the detective by PM in this game? I ask as in Kage's game it was a public reveal or not at all. I don't have a problem with private reveals, personally.

    Don Corleone
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    I thought about that. What's more, if somebody else were mafia, wouldn't it be in their best interest to keep me in the game for as long as possible, slowing down the discussion and making you all revisit logic puzzles you've solved long ago. Truthfully, I think it's nice that you strive to keep newbies in for a little extra time, but the cold hard logic is even if you're pretty sure they're not mafia, you've got to kill every newbie, cause they slow down the discussion and reduce the ability to put things in perspective. Wait, did I just make an argument for y'all to do me in?

    Okay, if the mafia cannot kill the chief of police, that changes my vote (though I would really hope the chief of police would be top of the list for the detective).

    Unvote: Divine Wind
    Vote: Drisos

    Sorry Drisos, nothing personal. Just cold hard logic.

    Csar
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    We cannot kill the Police Chief just yet because I'm sure he's the first person the detective would investigate(hopefully). My vote goes with Drisos nothing personal.

    Vote: Drisos


    This leaves us with:
    Cowhead418 (Voted first time only)
    Sasaki Kojiro (voted Drisos each time)
    Crazed Rabbit (first time only)
    Dutch_guy (second time only, as the others below him)
    Seamus Fermanagh
    GeneralHankerchief
    Divine Wind
    BKS
    Don Corleone
    Csar

    A thorough examination of these people's votes in the last round may be in order, as the mafia could well have been attempting to prove their innocence, but then abandoning that ploy as not many people believed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Oh, and I just noticed that, byz is the same person who there was an attempt against last turn. Huh.
    Which would confirm him as an innocent then, wouldn't it.

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    Interesting thought Crazed. We could rule out all the round 2 only people though. I can't see anything in your or Cowheads posts that makes me particularly suspicious though. OTOH we can rule out "mafia forgot" because the kill appeared briefly last turn...huuuuh.

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    I still have my eye on you Sasaki.
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Csar
    I still have my eye on you Sasaki.
    Well, eye have my I on you Csar, so there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Well, eye have my I on you Csar, so there.
    That's nice 2 know
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Csar
    That's nice 2 know
    Gay?

    Any way, I am still curious of Don, I still do not believe he is that much of a noob and since his noobish posts have decreased, his posts got smalller I think.
    And before I miss the deadline I will Vote: Don Corleone again simply because I am still not convinced of his innocence and because I cannot sense any good alternatives, the kind of suspicion that got Kommodus lynched has been proven wrong and to be serious, I didn't believe in it and still don't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Gay?
    Are you? It's ok if you are I don't care.

    Alright my vote goes to Don Corleone. I mean come on how hard is it to read the rules on the first page? Come on man. I think it's the perfect cover for a Mafioso to be playing dumb. But I think his plan back fired and it's garnered him more suspicion than he thought it would. So that's where my vote goes.

    Vote: Don Corleone
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    i am not very good at surviving these mafia games am i

    anyway you may notice that i voted for Don C every round - so its possible iwas killed to protect a mafia member or even the godfather as i had intended to keep voting Don C since he out of all of us was acting very very very odd - RTWguru was also on the "what the hell is he up to" list i made but no point trying to work it out now good luck all

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    Vote: Abstain


    For now...

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    you may notice that i voted for Don C
    Thats interesting. I say that because my initial reaction was - well that's an obvious frame, surely... but it depends. Isn't this Don's first game, and he's been displaying a lot of ignorance of the way the game works (even if some of it is put on).

    So we're left with two (or three) possibilities:

    1. Don C is mafia, he decided to get back at Sir Moody without realising that this would be picked up on.

    2. The mafia tried to frame Don C by going for Sir Moody

    (3. I'm barking up the wrong tree, however I don't like option 3, everything should be considered and added to the Grand Scales of Justice (tm) )

    Unfortunately, I think 1 and 2 are equally likely... 1 seems very possible, but then again, what are the chances that a more experienced mafioso wouldn't tell him what he was doing? 2 also seems possible, but it seems like a clumsy frame... I figure that after all these mafia games, simple frames like that surely don't work anymore?


    Also did anyone else notice this:
    and a Cessna Skyhawk flew into view.
    Reminds me of Osmium and as such should be thoroughly ignored.
    http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl...e=UTF-8&tab=wi

    @ Dutch Guy
    Which would confirm him as an innocent then, wouldn't it.
    Well hes dead now, so yes... I feel like I'm missing something.


    Vote: Don C
    Because he's highest on my suspicious list. There isn't one thing which makes me suspicious of him, its the sum total of all the little things.





    EDIT:
    This leaves us with:
    Cowhead418 (Voted first time only)
    Sasaki Kojiro (voted Drisos each time)
    Crazed Rabbit (first time only)
    Dutch_guy (second time only, as the others below him)
    Seamus Fermanagh
    GeneralHankerchief
    Divine Wind
    BKS
    Don Corleone
    Csar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki
    Interesting thought Crazed. We could rule out all the round 2 only people though.
    And that leaves us with:

    Cowhead418
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Crazed Rabbit

    CR suggests this theory, Sasaki then goes to say almost anyone but him can't be suspected because of this. That leaves an interesting situation. Is is possible that CR is onto something and Sasaki is being very clever (it would be like him ). Is it possible that CR and Sasaki are in it together? Seems unlikely... and then we're left with Cowhead. I'm not sure what to make of this, Sasaki and Cowhead seem to come of worse for this evidence, but not much (either due to a very good false defence by Sasaki, or by way of actually being innocent). You could go around and around...
    Last edited by Myrddraal; 10-29-2006 at 01:02.

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    It must be me. I'm the mafia in every game I play in. Just lynch me the first round and get it over with.

    Okay, as hard as this is to believe, yes, the first day... I really was that dumb. With an infant punching keys while I'm trying to read posts, it gets pretty confusing. Not to mention, the rules aren't really that clear.

    Once everybody started laughing and saying "What a clown, there's no way he's this dumb" I thought "Crap, my image is going downhill fast". So I started hamming it up (which is why I got dumber and more frequent for a while).

    Go ahead and lynch me. If the mafia has 1/2 a brain, they'll drop to 1 kill for a few rounds, just to convince you all that you nailed one of them. Then, when they pass the 1/2 way mark, when it's most likely too late, two of you will start dying again.

    I know I'm not the mafia, so I'm not going to do anything dumb like voting for myself.

    Vote: Dutch Guy
    "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
    Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.

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    Vote:Myrddraal for poor logic that sounds reasonable, the worst enemy of the town.

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