The Godfather, Part 2 [Concluded]

[Csargo]

Because there's no discussion and all that happens is townies die. The detective has a 1/14 chance of finding a mafioso first round. 2nd round he has 1/13. If he just randomly guesses by the time he finds a mafioso half the town will be dead. It's no good at all, and GeneralH knows this.

Just because one person Abstains not all of them will Sasaki.

Oh yeah something else I've noticed.

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Your Crazy

[GeneralHankerchief]

Already responded, it's interesting you like to pretend I didn't.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=396

I'm still waiting. If you already posted, post it again.

Voting someone to start discussion is standard practice. Even if you don't choose to do it personally it's not suspicious. Day 1 is all about discussion.

You complain that my post was ridiculous. Explain why. Rampant abstention hurts the town, this is fact. Why is one line a problem? There are dozens of one line posts. I believe I've made some of the longest posts in this thread to date. I was responding to your post which was much shorter.

No it isn't. Making a medium-sized post analyzing the situation is. You vote for someone when you think they did it, or the person with the most votes didn't do it. At that time, I really had nothing to offer and since Silver's games seem to be notorious for deadlines, I wanted to make sure I had something in.

It sends discussion in the wrong direction. Odds are greatly in favor of it being a mafia plant or just meaningless. The mafia want you to waste time discussing it. There is plenty of precedent for this.

Ok, fine. But look at it this way: How much would your suspicions of me have differed had I not posted that little analysis?

How could something so weak convince you?

It wasn't weak. Kommodus is an extremely smart player who learns from his mistakes. Engineering that kind of frame is right up his alley.

I'm sorry, but this makes you look more guilty. Mafia often worry about being seen as bandwagoning and will say they find someone suspicious and then vote them in a later post.

Yeah, I know. I did that with BKS in the last game. Don't you think that if I were mafia this time that I would have changed the strategy up?

Oh, entirely. I can see why you avoided responding to my post if this was all you had to offer. Myrddraal makes a much better case for his innocence.

Oh, please. Those are my reasons. I don't even know why I continue to argue. The townspeople made the right decision.

This game is starting to make me sick to my stomach. That's never happened before.

[Sigurd]

All mafia games need drama to stay interesting. I believe I contribute to this by my inputs.
This game is however derailing into a big argument and I am particularly concerned by GH feeling it physically.
These games should be played with tongue in cheek and funny dialogue. Some of you seem to take this a little too serious. You should not make enemies in these games, just new friends.

I believe Sasaki is playing this game tongue in cheek because that is how I interpret it.
Let’s take a step back and play like old buddies where snide remarks are taken with good humour. This might not be common in your local culture, but please let’s make it so.

Having said this…
I feel we need to move to the next game. The mafia will surely loose this round and I am going to make it happen.
Kommodus had an uber method of finding Mafiosi. I will top him by using one of the old navy methods and give you the players of this game.

Crazed Rabbit our detective has probably investigated me already and found me innocent.
Sasaki a Mafioso got lynched last round, while his companion Seamus Fermanagh… is still alive.
Both were chosen by our Godfather … Ignoramus.
Vote Ignoramus as I surely will get wiped out this round.

[Myrddraal]

Wow. You sound pretty convinced. Why?

[Xiahou]

Well, Ignoramus would certainly follow the theory of Prole's from round1. It would also seem to match the eerie words Lemur left us from the great beyond after his untimely death.

I do doubt that the mafia would kill you now, however, because it would prove you innocent and lend credence to your claims(hmm, unless of course you're wrong in which case they'd want to lend credence to your erroneous claims). Nonetheless, the above information along with your claims are enough for me to think it's worth a shot to lynch Ignoramus just to see if there is any truth to your claims.

[Kommodus]

Voice from the dead: Lisssssten to Ssssigurd, he knowsssssss what he'ssssss talking aboooouuuuut.

If you lynch Ignoramus and the game is still going, though, lynch Sigurd for being wrong twice. He's a smart guy and would only be wrong twice if he was guilty.

[Sigurd]

Wow. You sound pretty convinced. Why?

You came up as and alternative to Seamus... hmm.

Anyway vote Ignoramus and the game surely ends.

[Myrddraal]

You came up as and alternative to Seamus... hmm.

Well I'd still like to know why... I hope you don't mind.

I'm very tempted to vote, because a gamble where the stakes are winning the game is a gamble worth taking. But it kinda goes against my whole attitude to vote without reasoning...

[Proletariat]

I'm going with Sigurd this round. Big gamble, but worth it. Sig know's he's dead next if he's wrong, so we might as well shoot for it here.

[Xiahou]

I find it really interesting Sasaki that you posted that one line and not the entire PM that I sent you, back when I thought Prole and Xiahou were mafia and Xiahou never responded. Could HE be your partner?

I never responded because I took it as an amusing frameup attempt confirming your mafia role- asking me to post a sign in a different board here to acknowledge your "plan".

Honestly, it was pretty transparent. It would make no sense at all for me to leave a "secret" message on the public boards here when there would be numerous other ways for me to communicate(PMs for example) were I actually mafia.

So then, why make such an oddball request? Because you know already that I'm not mafia and in making such an odd offer it would also make me think that you're innocent as well. That PM, combined with your other public statements are the reasons I've been trying to get you lynched from round1.

You may be new at this, but your new guy mistake was overplaying you're new guy status to try and dodge suspicion.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Sasaki, you're way off the mark, and so is anyone else, in suspecting a link between me and Don.
Sasaki in particular is way off in his suspicion of, basically, every single one of my posts.

You're a master player; even after your death you attempt to continue your cause, be it for mafia or village.

Xiahou: there's been only one time of us voting and then unvoting for each other, and that was because Don used a random voting thing, which got him votes from other people who he didn't select.

Right now I'm suspicious of Don, Xiahou, Sigurd, GH, and Myrrdral.

All would be good choices for a mafioso. Well, Don has the right name for it, and he can claim ignorance as a defense (which he has). Xiahou performed well as a first time mafioso, going out after Sasaki, legendary spinmaster. Sigurd was a teflon Godfather in Sasaki's first game, and Myrrdral seems like a good player.

Also, RTWGuru is acting strange.

Gah, I'll come back tommorow after my exam.

CR

[Ignoramus]

RTWGuru is just crazy about his new forum game, I doubt he's in the mafia.

[Xiahou]

Xiahou: there's been only one time of us voting and then unvoting for each other, and that was because Don used a random voting thing, which got him votes from other people who he didn't select.

Even with the vote exchange withstanding, Don is most likely mafia. He sent the PM as a clear attempt to gain a defender in lynch votes and when that didn't pan out he's now using the PM to frame up one of his main accusers(me).

edit: I suppose, following the PM saga, that Proletariat can't be entirely ruled out either...

[Death Match]

Hello everybody! I like to tell you NOT to vote for Don Corleone! It is absurd thinking that he is guilty! I really have nobody to suspect so:

Vote: No-Lynch

[Ignoramus]

You really are asking to be lynched aren't you?

[Csargo]

Hello everybody! I like to tell you NOT to vote for Don Corleone! It is absurd thinking that he is guilty! I really have nobody to suspect so:

Vote: No-Lynch

The Mafia kills haven't been posted yet

That's all I'm saying.

[Ignoramus]

"...plus time for Silver to log on, check his PMs, and rewrite the kills."

This is what GH said after the roles had been given out, but before the game actually started. I find this suspicious, especially the "rewrite the kills".

[Proletariat]

edit: I suppose, following the PM saga, that Proletariat can't be entirely ruled out either...

Huh? I post on a lark about Lemur's past in these games, you agree and piggyback my post, Don therefore lumps us together as mafioso and somehow I get implied by you as well?

Do you think that I contacted Don privately, said something like, 'I'm gonna go drop a line about Lemur that's a total crock, when Xiahou takes the obvious bait and agrees in the thread, you Don, come riding through accusing Xman and me of being in the mafia! mwahahaha, perfect crime, those fools will never know'

[Husar]

This is almost as good as a talkshow.

[Myrddraal]

This is almost as good as a talkshow.

edited to correct smiley

[Sasaki Kojiro]

This is almost as good as a talkshow.

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

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Ignoramus has just posted a couple times to say "hmm no one suspicious". I do disagree with your assessment of Crazed as detective and me as mafioso though sigurd.

[Xiahou]

Huh? I post on a lark about Lemur's past in these games, you agree and piggyback my post, Don therefore lumps us together as mafioso and somehow I get implied by you as well?

Do you think that I contacted Don privately, said something like, 'I'm gonna go drop a line about Lemur that's a total crock, when Xiahou takes the obvious bait and agrees in the thread, you Don, come riding through accusing Xman and me of being in the mafia! mwahahaha, perfect crime, those fools will never know'

No, I was talking about the PM Don sent us both. When I was talking about it's implications to his apparent guilt it occurred to me that I had to consider at least the remote possibility that you were in on it with him. To do otherwise would have been remiss of me in my role as one of the paranoid townsfolk.

Ignoramus, OTOH, fits in very nicely with your earlier theory (that I also subscribe to) that Lemur's death was a revenge killing of sorts. We suspected DivineWind or Ignoramus. Lemur's words from beyond seemed to clearly point to Ignoramus- and now these latest accusations also point to Ignoramus.

In light of this, I'm willing to put Don on the back burner for now to lynch Ignoramus. If Ignoramus truly is the godfather, Don's guilt or innocence will be irrelevant.

[Silver Rusher]

Day breaks in the Gameroom. All is quiet.

theRTWGuru was determined not to leave his house aside from executions. He had made this choice ever since the first two kills, and had been faithful to this rule ever since. There was only one problem:

He ran out of toilet paper.

TRG was debating on whether to break this infraction just the one time, up until he had to actually go and use a substitute material. Then, it was no contest. Cursing to himself, he got into his car and drove to the store.

Upon arriving home, he noticed a new addition to his street: A van, with the words “Vincenzo’s Guttering” printed on the side, was parked near his house. Where had he seen this van before…?

With a slightly increased air of caution, TRG got out of his car and walked up to the door of his house, turning the handle. When opening it, the back of his mind noticed that it was slightly harder to open than usual. Upon entering the foyer, TRG had about a split second to notice that an elaborate rigging system had been set up.

Then, the rigging system made its purpose known. A pot with a liter’s worth of hot coffee flew directly at him, breaking the glass and scalding TRG in many places. He barely had time to react before the mafioso charged down the stairs, firing away with his tommy gun.

Upwards of 25 bullets were placed in theRTWguru’s person before the mafioso finally stopped. As he left, he flipped a silver coin onto the corpse beside him.

Chief of Police Divine Wind walked out of the Get Yer 'orses Stable towards the expectant crowd later that morning, leading 4 horses behind him.

"These are the finest stallions of all the land." DW began. "Whoever is chosen responsible for TRG's death will have his arms tied to the horses and his legs tied to this here tree. The horses will then be wipped. Not a good way to go. Get voting."

Status List

Killed By Mafia:
Lemur
UltraWar
Major Robert Dump
Byzantine Mercenary
Sir Moody
theRTWGuru

Lynched:
Drisos
Kommodus
Sasaki Kojiro

Still alive:
Masy
Big King Sanctaphrax
Csar
GeneralHankerchief
Proletariat
Don Corleone
Seamus Fernanagh
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Xiahou
Peasant Phill
Cowhead418
Dutch_guy
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Husar
Destroyer of Hope
Divine Wind
Myrddraal