The Godfather, Part 2 [Concluded]

[Dutch_guy]

Forgive me, Seamus. If I find that Dutch-Guy is framing you, in cahoots with Myrdraal, I'll find a way to make it up to you.

How is it I'm framing Seamus ? I was merely reposting one of the most important posts of this session, and it was to answer one of your questions.

[Don Corleone]

How is it I'm framing Seamus ? I was merely reposting one of the most important posts of this session, and it was to answer one of your questions.

I didn't say you were. I said IF you were....Clearly, I cannot know that until the game has been resolved.

[Dutch_guy]

I didn't say you were. I said IF you were....Clearly, I cannot know that until the game has been resolved.

True, however I find implying I might be framing anyone bad enough as it is

If you want proof of how I act as a mafia, check out Sasaki's mini-game, and compare that to how I acted as a detective in Mafia III.

Common knowledge after quite a few mafia games is that a good player (be it a mafia member, detective or townie) is able to keep on posting in a same style - or change it if there is a need for it.

I'm simply saying that people learn, and I doubt that were you a mafia member you'd act the same as you did back then.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

How is it I'm framing Seamus ?

YOU are not.

[Silver Rusher]

*****Voting Closed*****

[Silver Rusher]

Evening in the Gameroom.

It was all so eerily cold. Winter was approaching. The leaves on the trees seemed to have dwindled almost as fast as the townspeople over the past week.

There was nothing special going on. No fancy apparatus or location, just the town centre that the people had recently been making good use of. Chief of Police Divine Wind stepped up to the wooden podium and began speaking to the villagers.

"Seamus Fermanagh is guilty. He has murdered many of our friends, and created a hellhole out of our peaceful town." He gave Seamus a doubtful look, "Now, he has been condemned to death and we will finally be able to live our lives again! On to the execution, however. One of you lucky villagers will be given the privelege of choking him with your own bare hands."

He ran his finger through the crowd, and carefully pointed at Don Corleone.

"Congratulations, Don. You were the last to vote for Seamus, you have the privelege of killing him."

"My pleasure," DC walked towards Seamus with an almost evil grin on his face and with no sign of regret. Seamus backed away, and began yelling protests.

"Why are you believing these people? They have shown you letters trying to prove that they have found proof of my guilt, but they are riddled with flaws! They are the ones you want, not me!"

DC approached, and nobody seemed to be listening to his protests. With little time left, Seamus ran forward and punched DC in the face, who in turn lept at him and pinned him to the ground, hands wrapped around his neck. He hadn't covered Seamus' body, though, and Seamus landed a heavy kick in his manhood. DC clutched the area in obvious agony, allowing Seamus a chance to escape.

Seamus couldn't believe the opportunity he had been given. He ran as fast as he could for his car, but he was followed by the 7 who had previously been uninvolved. One happened to be carrying a gun.

BANG. Miss.

BANG. Hit.

Seamus fell to the floor, and another had died in the hunt for the mafia.

Tally:
Seamus Fermanagh - 4 votes (Myrddraal, Crazed Rabbit, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Husar, Don Corleone)
Crazed Rabbit - 1 vote (Seamus Fermanagh)
Csar - 1 vote (Masy)
Sigurd Fafnesbane - 1 vote (Csar)
Not voting - 1 (Proletariat)

Status List

Killed By Mafia:
Lemur
UltraWar
Major Robert Dump
Byzantine Mercenary
Sir Moody
theRTWGuru
Dutch_guy
Xiahou
Cowhead418

Lynched:
Drisos
Kommodus
Sasaki Kojiro
Ignoramus
Evil_Maniac From Mars
GeneralHankerchief
Seamus Fernanagh

PM:
Destroyer of Hope

Wrath of God:
Big King Sanctaphrax
Peasant Phill

Still alive:
Masy
Csar
Proletariat
Don Corleone
Crazed Rabbit
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Husar
Divine Wind
Myrddraal

9 players remain. PM's please.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Hey! Who's the jerk who re-filled the slug with Mercury. I never had a chance with a wound that size!

Thanks for an appropriate lynching Silver.

[Don Corleone]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...........*groan*

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Sorry old bean, I'd've done the same for anyone coming after me.

Unfortunately for you, I've been hitting the gym regular lately and I've been upping the leg extension and press weights pretty regularly.

[Masy]

Hey, sorry I missed deadline (oh the irony...), but I only just got on the internet all day. Csar, I'm sorry if I offended you by voting for you, but I am truly bamboozled by this game, and honestly have no clue as to who the mafia are. And yes I realise I am being a hypocryte, but, well, balloon anyone?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Upon my death, the town census will read as follows:

CR, Csar, DW, Don C, Husar, Masy, Myrdraal, Prole, Sigurd.

Divine Wind, by role, cannot vote.

Therefore, you will have 8 voters.

If there were 4 mafia and Seamus is innocent, it is reasonable to assume at least 1 is dead (Sasaki or Hanky). The three remaining could double kill, leaving you with three mafiosi and three townies. The game is then over (3-3 tie, no lynch, add 2 murders, done), unless Divine Wind is one of the mafiosi and you can still manage a 3-2 vote. Even then, you'd have to get it right every time with no slip ups or you're toast. I'd rate this one 90/10 mafia favor.

If there were 3 mafia and Seamus is innocent, it is reasonable to assume at least 1 is dead (Sasaki or Hanky). This is a challenge for the mafia, since they are still limited to one kill and the numbers would be 5-2. This leaves a two rounds to get the GF or his henchie (otherwise its 2 murders, 2 lynches, mafia lynches remaining voter, mafia lynches CoP) -- but still provides the mafia a chance to bluster and obfuscate while weeding the numbers. This is 50/50 town v mafia.

Your only strong scenario is if I am mafia, since that leaves you with a 7-1 advantage over the GF. At one murder per swat, the GF has to survive three rounds of voting while doing all the murders -- a lot tougher. Town wins 70/30 here.

Should you let me live?

If I'm the 4th mafiosi, leaving me alive would still leave only 2 remaining -- and 1 kill to cope with -- odds of winning very similar to the 3 mafia/Seamus innocent scenario above, with one additional (admittedly somewhat chancy) shot at the godfather. Remember, even if Myrdraal IS the consumate detective, I cannot be the godfather.

If I'm the 3rd mafiosi, leaving me alive changes NEITHER the number of mafia votes you'll be facing nor the number of kills, but provides you with an additional shot at the godfather.


Ultimately, I don't think you improve your odds of winning by killing me, even if I were guilty. And, since I am not mafia, I am absolutely certain of this.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Re: Ignoramus paradox.

I claim game fatigue. Believe it if you want, but it is the truth. Ignoramus was in fact investigated in that round, but during my fifteen zillionth defense against Sasaki's attacks, I just honestly forgot that we investigated him. That investigation was a pretty minor one anyway, as it was the round where Sigurd accused Kommodus. Nothing else of note really happened, and Myrd and I didn't want to fall in the trap of investigating solely based on posts. Here's pretty much how our discussion before the investigation went:

Myrd: "I don't know, Ignoramus has been acting weird. Want to investigate him?"

GH: "Well, he's acted like that in previous games, but why not? It's good cover anyway."

Satisfied?

EDIT:

Hanky took off virtually all of round 4 to "recover" from his spat with Sasaki and didn't do more than bandwagon on the EMFM round. He nearly brought it off without a hitch.

I was actually the first person to vote for EMFM. So don't try that argument.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Re: Ignoramus paradox.

I claim game fatigue. Believe it if you want, but it is the truth. Ignoramus was in fact investigated in that round, but during my fifteen zillionth defense against Sasaki's attacks, I just honestly forgot that we investigated him. That investigation was a pretty minor one anyway, as it was the round where Sigurd accused Kommodus. Nothing else of note really happened, and Myrd and I didn't want to fall in the trap of investigating solely based on posts. Here's pretty much how our discussion before the investigation went:

Myrd: "I don't know, Ignoramus has been acting weird. Want to investigate him?"

GH: "Well, he's acted like that in previous games, but why not? It's good cover anyway."

Satisfied?

No.

[Silver Rusher]

Day breaks in the Gameroom. All is quiet.

Proletariat was a very environmentally and health conscious person. This was why she cycled around everywhere. That morning, she took her bike out for a bit of early morning shopping.

Nikolay's was always open, so it was an ideal place to shop. Knowing exactly what she needed it only took her about 5 minutes to get everything and get out. She put it in the basket on the front of her bike and cycled away.

Prole liked her daytime television, and her favourite chat show was about to come on. She decided to take a shortcut to save time.

But this wasn't a good idea. She turned right, and went down a road with walls on either side to the sight of a van. A van marked Vincenzo's Guttering, in fact. It was driving straight towards her, and accelerating. Perhaps the driver didn't notice her.

Nope. Prole screamed in fear, but also in the hope that the driver would notice and stop. But it didn't happen. The van, now at a speed of about 60mph, knocked her off her bike before crushing her with its weight. The van stopped, and reversed back over her, before driving forwards and out of the alley (also crushing her body some more). She was dead, but they needed to be sure.

Fear gripped the town, but at the same time they were getting fairly used to the murders. It was no longer a town, it was a scene of genocide with a few people living in it.

Chief of Police Divine Wind stepped up to address the highly traumatised crowd.

"So many of us have died, so few of us are left living. But out of the 8 that remain, at least one of us must still be responsible for all these deaths!" He paused. "The killer is, or the killers are, still out there. We have to get it right this time! Cast your votes."

Status List

Killed By Mafia:
Lemur
UltraWar
Major Robert Dump
Byzantine Mercenary
Sir Moody
theRTWGuru
Dutch_guy
Xiahou
Cowhead418
Proletariat

Lynched:
Drisos
Kommodus
Sasaki Kojiro
Ignoramus
Evil_Maniac From Mars
GeneralHankerchief
Seamus Fernanagh

PM:
Destroyer of Hope

Wrath of God:
Big King Sanctaphrax
Peasant Phill

Still alive:
Masy
Csar
Don Corleone
Crazed Rabbit
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Husar
Divine Wind
Myrddraal

8 players remain.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Okay, right now my suspicions lie with Husar and Masy (a bit more than Husar). I still believe in GH and Myrd, because I am certain Sasaki is mafia. Some may point out that Myrd has survived a long time for detective, but after last round he was useless as all the mafia had been found, and leaving him alive makes him more suspicious.

So, my vote will depend on who can defend themselves the best.

Right now, Vote: Masy.

Masy, this could very well change based on how you respond.

Crazed Rabbit

[Kommodus]

Re: Ignoramus paradox.

I claim game fatigue. Believe it if you want, but it is the truth. Ignoramus was in fact investigated in that round, but during my fifteen zillionth defense against Sasaki's attacks, I just honestly forgot that we investigated him.

GH... I can almost believe that. I can accept that you might forget about Iggy being investigated in the aftermath of your spat with Sasaki.

However, when you "revealed" yourself and Myrddraal, you included the list of your past investigations in your post. Surely that would've refreshed your memory?

Then again, if you and M were making up the whole story of the two detectives, you also would've had to concoct that list of fake investigations. Surely you wouldn't have forgotten the lie you made up so quickly?

Still feeling a little fatigued there, bro? Or is that whole thing just a clever cover for your guilt?

Are you a mafioso?