The Godfather, Part 2 [Concluded]

[Kommodus]

You know, in the absence of GH's response to the Ignoramus paradox, I'm beginning to change my mind about this whole thing. I take back everything I've said about the "stupid" townspeople in this game. Whoever they are, the mafia have done an excellent job with their deception. In all honesty I haven't followed this thread with as much attention as I might've had I remained alive.

If GH and Myrd are mafia, they have truly cooked up an elaborate hoax. Let's have a look at the objections Sasaki has made to the claim.

They both investigate me round four when only one of them needed to, if they were detectives they would have thought of that

GH responded that he and Myrd were simply used to doing investigations together by that point. This is entirely possible, but if so, it's a careless mistake that allowed the mafia a chance to attack the "reveal." This strikes me as uncharacteristic of GH.

The phone number is American (like GH) while Silver is British

True AFAIK, but I've learned not to read too much into this sort of thing. Just because the phone number is American doesn't mean SR couldn't have used it. American TV/stories making their way to Britain and all that.

If GH was detective he wouldn't have outed Myrddraal and put him at risk

This doesn't carry much weight to me either. I still think the PM could've been interpreted to mean they both had to be revealed at the same time.

Neither of them made an effort to prevent Ignoramus from being lynched, even though according to GH they had found him innocent

It's not so much this point itself, but GH's response to it that provides Sasaki's strongest point. He does appear to contradict himself in claiming that he didn't investigate Iggy after originally claiming that he did.

The question is, why? If he were telling a lie, I would've thought he'd have tried harder to keep it consistent. But then again, could this really be just another careless mistake on the part of the (former) detective? Something's wrong here.

The pm doesn't mention that they aren't allowed to post screenshots to prove their role, which it would if it were genuine

This argument is a non-factor; it's this sort of weak, hollow argument that makes me suspicious of Sasaki.

"An extra detective" doesn't qualify as a twist. Also, if this is a twist, what is the meaning of the bolded words in some of Silver's descriptions?

Again, this argument is hollow. Sasaki is not the arbiter of what qualifies as a twist. Besides, it could be only part of the twist - as I stated earlier, there may be a pro-mafia twist that counterbalances it.

The only thing is... Silver stated in the opening post that opposing the mafia there would be "a detective." He would know this would be interpreted as only one. It does strike me as odd that he would deliberately mislead the town that way.

GH hadn't gotten enough votes for him to really need to claim

This doesn't mean much either, since it's entirely possible that GH believed he had enough votes to warrant it. Still, that would be yet another careless mistake from the "detective." GH, I'm sure you realize how this looks - like perhaps you were just waiting for the right moment to spring this hoax?

Add to this Myrddraal's possible mistake in accusing Seamus of being guilty:

Seamus is guilty!

Before being executed, he killed Lemur, MRD, Byz Merc, RTWguru, Dutch_guy and Xiahou

Sasaki pointed out the obvious "before being executed" snafoo. A mistake on Silver Rusher's part? I wouldn't put it past him, since copy-and-paste errors have given him problems in the past. But in addition to this, the quoted PM doesn't follow the formatting/style of GH's quoted PM indicating Sasaki's guilt. The colors/font weights are off. More careless inconsistencies? It's starting to stretch credulity.

Then we have a relationship of Sasaki to Seamus. Sasaki was bringing up suspicions of Seamus earlier in the game; only later did he switch and start saying Seamus was innocent. Were the original accusations a ploy to provide cover for his fellow mafioso? I doubt it; that is a dangerous strategy for the mafia to pursue. Or is the twist that Seamus was recruited later in the game? Or are both truly innocent?

There are two ominous signs in Silver Rusher's latest kills.

He saw 4 shadowy figures dressed immaculately in suits standing next to a van marked "Vincenzo's Guttering", shaking hands.

Whoever you choose to execute now will be strangled to death. We can't get this wrong!

If there are four mafiosi left, then after an incorrect lynch and a mafia kill, there would be four mafiosi and four townspeople. If there are actually two mafia grunts left, then they could still kill two people, and the mafia would outnumber the villagers, giving them a victory. Divine Wind's warning rings true.

Yet how could there really be four mafiosi left? The game was supposed to start with only three, and it seems likely that at least one has been lynched (either Sasaki or GeneralHankerchief). Could the "twist," whatever it is, have even more to do with this?

So now I've been confused by both the mafia and by Silver Rusher himself. I think it will take his end-game revelations to make sense of this.

P.S. If I were still alive, I'd probably pick Crazed Rabbit as the Godfather. He's definitely on the side of GH and Myrddraal, whose credibility is looking a little tattered. But there's a good chance I'm wrong about this. This is why I try to avoid the usual analysis methods and go for something numerical; hopefully I'll have another go at that next game.