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    Figured I'de try to start a discussion on him since I have nothing better to do.

    I watched a show on the History Channel about him during the Nuremberg Trials. It said that he was addicted to some kind of drug when he was sent for the trial there. I find it weird that from what it said he was a pretty bright man that he would have done such a bad job coordinating the Luftwaffe.
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    Goering was many things - a talented fighter pilot in WW1, charming, gregarious, a romantic, the kind of guy you like to be sat next to at a dinner party.

    He was also lacking in the mangerial skills needed to run the Luftwaffe and would much rather have been drinking fine wine and eating caviar at a top restraunt whilst discussing the latest works of art he had "acquired" than working 20 hours a day trying to fend off the RAF, USAAF and Russian AF.
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    Goering co-ordinated the Luftwaffe as good as he could, the problem was Adolf himself. Adolf made sure that the Germans were fucked up. Due to his actions they quickly lost loads of troops, resources and material were they didn't need to.
    This was a problem for Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine and Wehrmacht. They all couldn't do what was best.

    Tho Hermann made one great mistake by attacking London, instead of the airports, but then again, this was also initiated by Adolf who wanted revenge for the bombings on London.

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    As Mount Suribachi has said. He was a pretty likeable guy. IIRC he was an addict of morphine.


    What I don't get is that we tried him for crimes against humanity. But he had nothing to really do with the death camps, I think. All he did was try and make war... just like everyone else has done for the past millenia.

    BTW, I saw that show too. Not all of it though. It was very fun to watch and was like a movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    What I don't get is that we tried him for crimes against humanity. But he had nothing to really do with the death camps, I think. All he did was try and make war... just like everyone else has done for the past millenia.
    Well he was such a high figure in the hierachy that he must have know at least something, if not everything, about those Deathcamps. And not doing anything about such a thing warrants the death penalty, in my opinion.

    But I do agree, he sure had less to do with them than say a Himmler.

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    But how many slave workers toiled away making aircraft, ammo etc. How many slave workers dug for the coal that fired the trains that transported the Luftwaffe's men and material? Furthermore at the Nuremberg trials he couldn't see what all the fuss was about. He was of the opinion that might makes right, and everyone else would have done the same in Germany's position.

    Stig - y'know, not everything was Adolfs fault. Bombing London for revenge? Revenge on what? Britain had made a point of not bombing German cities for fear of provoking retaliation (possibly with gas), and Bomber Command in 1940 was barely capable of landing bombs on Germany full stop, let alone hitting their cities. The decision to switch to attacking British cities was for a variety of reasons, thankfully it cost Germany the battle

    It was also Goering who promised Hitler that the Luftwaffe would fly what was it, 300 tons of supplies a day to the 6th army in Stalingrad? And never got over 100 IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    As Mount Suribachi has said. He was a pretty likeable guy. IIRC he was an addict of morphine.


    What I don't get is that we tried him for crimes against humanity. But he had nothing to really do with the death camps, I think. All he did was try and make war... just like everyone else has done for the past millenia.

    BTW, I saw that show too. Not all of it though. It was very fun to watch and was like a movie.
    The show said that he was one of the strong arguers for the Death Camps and Concentration camps at the Final Solution to the Jewish Question. The real reason is they needed a top Nazi official to take the blame for all the things that happened and Goering was that official.
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    And that he didn't say no to them. Very important that.

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