Hermann Goering

**Subedei** · 10-27-2006, 09:32

Originally Posted by KrooK

It's my last statement towards this issue - I don't think you agree with me but sadly German propaganda during last 50years washed Europeans minds very well.

Oh, when it comes to propaganda statements I know somebody we can rely on for sure.....Terms like "Idiot", statements like "Even now Germans are trying to attack Poland. "....and the like....Man, come down to planet earth...we got the European Union, our two countries get along fine & every Polish person I know says so.

**Stig** · 10-27-2006, 09:34

Not if you're a nationalistic Pole

I'm starting to think Polish Historians don't have a degree in history, but in propaganda

**Subedei** · 10-27-2006, 10:14

Originally Posted by Stig

Not if you're a nationalistic Pole

I'm starting to think Polish Historians don't have a degree in history, but in propaganda

That for sure not. I think they have some skilled historians. Poland has a long academic tradition. "Uniwersytet Jagielloński", the University of Kravow was founded in 1364 already.

Well, I am actually reading a book with historical background staged in Poland/ Bohemia. Well it is fictional, but the author Andrzej Sapkowski has a very good understanding of history, storytelling & freakin´funny ideas. In german the title is "Gottesstreiter", which kinda means fighter for god. I am just starting, but latero n the Hussites will become part of the story...yeah...Roll on wagons of war!!!!!!

**Stig** · 10-27-2006, 10:55

Well I believe Poland should still have some of the old Prussian Universities. They are quite old ... and when the Prussians were there pretty good.

That for sure not.

I know m8, but it's just that whenever you see a post from someone from what was the Warschawpact, they always are full of nationalism, and they think everything that isn't nice to their country is a lie.

**KrooK** · 10-27-2006, 16:50

I'm not historician. Yep - I'm nationalist. But 70 years ago nationalist meant patriot in every country of Europe. Stig - you mean these old prussian universities where they turn peoples bodies into soap

? Yes - they did that pretty good, I must admit.
Actually Polish Universities are really good IMO, Varsav University is probably best university in the world into informatic technologies (its students keep winning world team championships).

Subedei - sadly I'm telling the truth about German attempts to gain polish territories. 30 years ago German history book claimed half of Poland "German territories until polish occupation". It was a bit annoying and Willy Brandt had to use all his influence to stop that.
Now they want change sea border and block biggest polish port Szczecin despite international agreement they signed 17 years ago.
I can't call it good relationship when your neighbour practise artillery trainings on the way to your ports.

Stig - I don't know what do you think about polish-german relationship into XX century but trust me or not. Germans did everything to destroy Poland.
Into 1972 they changed their policy but last year they changed it again.
So that as Pole who know polish history, I must be careful.

Stig - if 200 years is nothing, and 400 is so long time, where exactly is border? Germans have same rights to Western Poland like Spain to Holland.
Tell me - do you feel Dutch or Spanish rebel?

**Ser Clegane** · 10-27-2006, 17:00

Originally Posted by Krook

And you Stig should start telling Sieg Heil insted of hello

Completely out of line

**Stig** · 10-27-2006, 17:42

And you Stig should start telling Sieg Heil insted of hello.

Tarrak, where are you? I think I mod could do here

you mean these old prussian universities where they turn peoples bodies into soap?

Yeah we still do that

if 200 years is nothing, and 400 is so long time, where exactly is border? Germans have same rights to Western Poland like Spain to Holland

m8, Spain had Holland because they had a large empire back then. (Charles V?)
If Spain has a claim on Holland, Italy, what once was the Roman Empire, has a claim on Europe

**KrooK** · 10-27-2006, 21:12

Sorry - if you accuse Poles of genocide, everything is ok.
If I accuse you of racism, I must be silent?

**Csargo** · 10-27-2006, 21:31

Originally Posted by KrooK

Sorry - if you accuse Poles of genocide, everything is ok.
If I accuse you of racism, I must be silent?

My gosh.

**Dutch_guy** · 10-27-2006, 23:54

Originally Posted by KrooK

Sorry - if you accuse Poles of genocide, everything is ok.
If I accuse you of racism, I must be silent?

Krook, you're taking things way out of context here.

**Kraxis** · 10-28-2006, 02:33

Enough!

Krook you have overstepped the boundaries once again.

You of all should know the seriousness of calling people nazis. People who aren't! civilized people can defend Germans, civilized people can differentiate between regular Germans and nazis, civilized people do not throw the term 'nazi' around, even if it just insinuated!

You are personally making the Monastery an unpleasant place for everybody. Think about it! Every time there has been attacks on people you have been involved. It is time this ended!

CLOSED!
Apparently it is about time I began pruning the subjects that can be discussed.