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    Who would of thunk it?

    We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News

    It was the day that a host of BBC executives and star presenters admitted what critics have been telling them for years: the BBC is dominated by trendy, Left-leaning liberals who are biased against Christianity and in favour of multiculturalism.
    This is just for fun, no malice. Enjoy.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...#StartComments


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    i love the dailymail pitch "We are biased, admits stars of the daily mail"

    however its actually quite an interesting article, and good fun to read (look at the comments)

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    And the odds are open on how long it takes for somebody to post an outright dismissal of the Daily Mail. Don't you know, Vladimir, that if a story doesn't come from a Lefty approved source, such as the Beeb itself, then it can be dismissed categorically, regardless of how much evidence it cites? FoxNews and the Daily Mail are both owned by Rupert Murdoch, so therefore they are automatically disqualified. Try again... [/sarcasm off]

    Interesting read. Would like to see what the BBC executive interview transcript really said, in it's entirety.
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    The comments were interesting. Mostly because I'm kind of a linguistic nerd. I know Daily Mail has a bit of a "reputation" but I do so enjoy it.


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
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    Uhm, not that I don't enjoy poking at sacred lefty cows, but the article is using the term 'liberal' in the American sense, not the European sense, which strikes me as odd. To a Brit, Liberal means free market entrepreneurship, not left-wing. I'm not certain what the British/European term would be that equates to our use of the term liberal, but it's being misused in this article. As the article was written in a British newspaper, this strikes me as odd.
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    Now I always assumed that everyone knew the BBC was yellow journalism in it's finest. I've always wondered why they would deny it, it was becoming more and more obvious. Will they continue to mention their anti-American bias whenever they report on major news stories concerning the USA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    Uhm, not that I don't enjoy poking at sacred lefty cows, but the article is using the term 'liberal' in the American sense, not the European sense, which strikes me as odd. To a Brit, Liberal means free market entrepreneurship, not left-wing. I'm not certain what the British/European term would be that equates to our use of the term liberal, but it's being misused in this article. As the article was written in a British newspaper, this strikes me as odd.
    In many things, the UK takes its lead from the US and this includes language. So many TV programmes are US centric, it's inevitable. Reporting from the US often requires the 'translation' of political terms. Therefore 'liberal' is increasingly taking on the US meaning - especially since the Liberal Democrat party is the only one left with 'leftist' or 'socialist' style policies.

    Many popular newspapers are keen to simplify political debate into black/white, left/right polarities and the 'liberal' tag is a good one to achieve this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    Many popular newspapers are keen to simplify political debate into black/white, left/right polarities and the 'liberal' tag is a good one to achieve this.
    Ooo, is that a subtle slight towards conservatives?


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
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    Down with dried flowers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    In many things, the UK takes its lead from the US and this includes language. So many TV programmes are US centric, it's inevitable. Reporting from the US often requires the 'translation' of political terms. Therefore 'liberal' is increasingly taking on the US meaning - especially since the Liberal Democrat party is the only one left with 'leftist' or 'socialist' style policies.

    Many popular newspapers are keen to simplify political debate into black/white, left/right polarities and the 'liberal' tag is a good one to achieve this.
    Old school socialism is out of vogue now, and what remains is the kind of liberalism that is actually thel English mainstream (think One Nation Conservatism, or the tussles between Disraeli and Gladstone for middle class and working class votes). Greenism has also entered the political mainstream with the now overwhelming acceptance of the existence of global warming.

    There is an agreement across all sections of the mainstream on what government responsibilities should be. The only argument is whether or not people trust the government to get it right. Labour has been seen to muck things up regularly, but they have also been known to put their efforts in the right direction. Blair and Brown have been trying to reduce the former and increase the latter. The Conservatives have a healthy scepticism about the ability of government, but they have also been known to cut back in areas which the British people regard as sacrosanct. Cameron has been trying to move the Tories to recognise the latter while retaining the essence of the former.

    The basic choice is whether one believes Labour will eventually get it right one day, or whether the Tories will refrain from cutting down essential social infrastructure that benefits their opponents' electorate. Neither is particularly believable, hence the increasing apathy of (non-)voters. The third party, the Liberal Democrats, believes an infusion of government money solves all ills, an attitude even the Labour left regards as outdated. Certainly voters aren't willing to entrust any government with yet more tax money in the belief they will do something useful with it. Hence Blair and Brown's continued campaigns to inundate the civil services with bureaucracy to check that the money they are allocated is spent wisely, even as the voters who wouldn't have it any other way criticise the government for increasing red tape. Damned if you do, damned if you don't - such is politics.

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    Some of the comments were funny, and downright sad

    BBC's old image of neutrality isn't really deserved, but I'd still put more trust in BBC then in CNN or (gasp) Fox.

    EDIT: I noticed that too DC. I also thought it was strange that so many comments came from Americans. When there's meat to pick, the vultures are never far away I guess
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    CNN actually tends to favor the Democrats and the Left. CNN World is downright pandering to Europeans... they piss me off because they won't broadcast baseball or football results when I'm overseas, just soccer results (and, get this, cricket!)
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    CNN actually tends to favor the Democrats and the Left. CNN World is downright pandering to Europeans... they piss me off because they won't broadcast baseball or football results when I'm overseas, just soccer results (and, get this, cricket!)
    So?

    I don't like any media that has a strong bias in any direction, though I accept that if you aren't willing to accept some bias you're left with practically nothing. That said I don't like CNN.

    There, I said it. Happy now?

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