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    funny, foot, i was about to say that it seems to be better in the 1.5 build. i've had major cities besieged, but only a couple of times, and by respectable armies. in fact, i very very rarely get rebels in my homeland provinces (with normal or high taxes). maybe i just got lucky...or maybe they're hiding in the woods [goes off to look]
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    Quote Originally Posted by paullus
    funny, foot, i was about to say that it seems to be better in the 1.5 build. i've had major cities besieged, but only a couple of times, and by respectable armies. in fact, i very very rarely get rebels in my homeland provinces (with normal or high taxes). maybe i just got lucky...or maybe they're hiding in the woods [goes off to look]
    Yep, we still need to fiddle around with the rebel spawning numbers, but I think we can make sure that heavy rebel spawning is a thing of the past. However it should be noted that rebels should be spawning a fair bit in provinces with high taxes, its quite a nice little thing that makes you think about taxation a little bit more. After discovering about that little connection I only have high taxation when I'm preparing for war. This also has the side benefit of slowing the campaign down a bit and making it just tiny bit harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    Yep, we still need to fiddle around with the rebel spawning numbers, but I think we can make sure that heavy rebel spawning is a thing of the past. However it should be noted that rebels should be spawning a fair bit in provinces with high taxes, its quite a nice little thing that makes you think about taxation a little bit more. After discovering about that little connection I only have high taxation when I'm preparing for war. This also has the side benefit of slowing the campaign down a bit and making it just tiny bit harder.

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    I've noticed oddly that though towers don't help at all against rebel spawning, having fortifications garrisoned with one light unit at strategic points blocking passes vastly decreases the number of rebels you have to deal with. This works well if you like to put your cities on very high taxes.



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    I didn't mean rebels... I meant enemy faction forces. Like playing as Carthage... I would have Iberians laying siege to my towns with 1 or 2 units of skirmishers, or those guys that don't wear shoes... You'd think if the AI was going to be suicidal it would have some sort of grand plan to it, but it doesn't! It just wants to lay siege to your cities that have huge armies garrisoned nearby with two units of the cheapest crap it can recruit!

    Hmm, i feel like declaring war on that there largest, richest human controlled empire... Shall i first establish an empire of my own, get some denari and build up a large army? NEVER! I shall send in two units of pantopadoi, that'll scare the pants off them! Banzai!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayve
    I didn't mean rebels... I meant enemy faction forces. Like playing as Carthage... I would have Iberians laying siege to my towns with 1 or 2 units of skirmishers, or those guys that don't wear shoes... You'd think if the AI was going to be suicidal it would have some sort of grand plan to it, but it doesn't! It just wants to lay siege to your cities that have huge armies garrisoned nearby with two units of the cheapest crap it can recruit!

    Hmm, i feel like declaring war on that there largest, richest human controlled empire... Shall i first establish an empire of my own, get some denari and build up a large army? NEVER! I shall send in two units of pantopadoi, that'll scare the pants off them! Banzai!


    Highly amusing, I totally agree there!

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    That is just what the AI does. It wants to win and it knows that to do that it must attack the human player and does this regardless of surrounding territories, rebels, other factions in conflict, and so on. Apparently a lot of work on this has been done in M2TW, which means the AI will take into consideration economy, army size, allies, and resources before declaring war on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abou
    That is just what the AI does. It wants to win and it knows that to do that it must attack the human player and does this regardless of surrounding territories, rebels, other factions in conflict, and so on. Apparently a lot of work on this has been done in M2TW, which means the AI will take into consideration economy, army size, allies, and resources before declaring war on you.
    This sounds like sweet music to my ears , lets hope the AI has a "Phd" (or wotever it's called) in M2TW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanit
    Power to Carthage!!! The people of the New City shall rule the known world!

    Never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayve
    Never!
    Foolish little man!!! Thinks he can deny the power of Carthage!!!

    Well....um....I hope not...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanit
    I've noticed oddly that though towers don't help at all against rebel spawning, having fortifications garrisoned with one light unit at strategic points blocking passes vastly decreases the number of rebels you have to deal with. This works well if you like to put your cities on very high taxes.
    They work wonders to deflect the AI too. Simply having a fort with those crappy Pantodapoi, or Akontistai in it, and you won't be bothered with enemies assaulting your precious hughe cities. They'll go for your forts instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
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