And here's why women are being raped in Australia

[Navaros]

The Muslim has a point. He's a bit too extreme about it, but nonetheless there is truth to his point.

What he says is true that women who do not dress respectably, are encouraging themselves to be sexually assaulted. I'm not saying that it should happen, but it definitely will happen a lot of the time due to the temptation the women cause in psychopaths' minds by dressing like prostitutes. Of course it should never happen and no one deserves that. Although, that they didn't deserve it won't make things much better after the fact. If they didn't dress like prostitutes in the first place, perhaps in many cases they might have been able to entirely avoid the horrible situation. Hence putting aside offense at the Muslim's comments, and women learning to dress more respectably because of them instead of getting caught up in being offended, then the world would be a much better place with less sexual assault.

[Duke of Gloucester]

No Nav, he does not have a point at all. Let us set aside the fact that most rapes are commited by people who know their victims and just talk about rapes by strangers - these "psychopaths" you refer to. If women follow your and his advice then they would need to cover up more and more. It would not be a case of thigh and cleavage inciting these people, it would become neck and ankle, so they need to be covered, then the face. Much better to make sure young men learn that however women dress they are not consenting to anything that they say "no" to. Rape is not caused by men's desires becoming inflamed - this happens to all men, but we are not all rapists. Rape happens when a man has no respect for a woman and treats her as less than human. Making a distinction between those who dress nicely and those who expose their flesh simply makes the lack of respect more likely. It encourages young men to think "These women are nice girls like my sisters and mother, these others are whores and get what is coming to them". You see - lack of respect.

He actually goes further and says that the woman who was gang raped is to blame rather than the men who did it, which is nauseating.

[Fragony]

Well if they don't respect sexy women it is of course more likely to happen when a woman dresses sexy, but we shouldn't think like that. They just need to understand that australie is not a muslim country and that they shouldn't aspire to change that. Problem is they know they can with so many usefull idiots at important places.

[doc_bean]

He actually goes further and says that the woman who was gang raped is to blame rather than the men who did it, which is nauseating.

Not to speak in his defense or to be muslim bashing, BUT, isn't this view pretty much law in several Islamic countries ? (Iran, Pakistan,...) I do think this line of thought is horribly wrong, but this isn't just the problem of one lunatic, there are a whole lot of people trapped in the same 'paradigm'. Not that it's (all) Islam that's to blame, this line of thought was (is?) pretty common in the western world too...

But, yeah, ban him.

[BDC]

Why is he still allowed to spew his hate?

Freedom of speech? Doesn't stop him being an idiot and mocked though.

I mean seriously. What a fool.

[caravel]

He's an idiot and should be simply sacked from his job and ignored. Deporting him draws attention and effectively makes a martyr of him.

The point about scantily clad women encouraging rape is true though. In the UK, women dress provocatively, i.e when going out clubbing. This is undeniable. The whole idea is to look good and draw attention to themselves, though that can be the wrong kind of attention especially if one of them is staggering home/into an illegal taxi drunk. In such case the drunkenness is probably the biggest factor, but the highly revealing clothing is another major factor. This is a big problem.

The problem with this cleric in question is that his views on the matter are rather extreme and blinkered.

"If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

With regard to muslim men, some of which are possibly accustomed to seeing women at all unless covered from head to foot, this may be quite 'shocking' to say the least. The idea that a woman in a muslim country will be raped unless covered, portrays muslims in a bad light. The cleric, as is usual with these types, ony does a disservice to his own religion/culture and nothing more.

[Tribesman]

Ah well if they can't control themselves if they see a hot chick, let's tackle this problem at it's root and ban hot chicks. These things need time, we must carefully culturally sensitive explain that this can and must not happen and that it happens anyway is really not their fault. They already have it so tough.

Well if they don't respect sexy women it is of course more likely to happen when a woman dresses sexy, but we shouldn't think like that. They just need to understand that australie is not a muslim country and that they shouldn't aspire to change that. Problem is they know they can with so many usefull idiots at important places.

Is this he same really caring person who described a gang-rape and murder victim as a dumb MTV loving American bitch who wanted a bit of gang-bang action but got more than she was expecting ?
Or was that someone else using that name?



Right , first off lets be clear , this preacher is talking bollox , just like a Christian preacher who would describe line dancing as being sexually provocative is talking bollox .
But , since during rape trials in the "civilised" western world the prosecution often makes a big issue out of what the victim was wearing at the time , putting it for consideration to a western judge and jury that the victims attire may be a mitigating factor for the actions of the sick **** of a rapist then where is your outrage oh outraged ones ?

I wonder how many riots this is going to create throughout the Western World. I'll take a wild guess... 0

Now then Dave , how many riots did it cause in Japan when there was a nasty child rape committed , and then a figure of authority over the perpetrator of the crime moaned about the locals making a big deal over nothing ?
Any thoughts about the defendants mitigating factors put forward for the recent gang rape incident in the Phillipines ?

[Kralizec]

What he says is true that women who do not dress respectably, are encouraging themselves to be sexually assaulted. I'm not saying that it should happen, but it definitely will happen a lot of the time due to the temptation the women cause in psychopaths' minds by dressing like prostitutes. Of course it should never happen and no one deserves that. Although, that they didn't deserve it won't make things much better after the fact. If they didn't dress like prostitutes in the first place, perhaps in many cases they might have been able to entirely avoid the horrible situation. Hence putting aside offense at the Muslim's comments, and women learning to dress more respectably because of them instead of getting caught up in being offended, then the world would be a much better place with less sexual assault.

It's true that some women could have avoided being raped, had they worn clothes that don't reveal any skin.
It's also true that these women could certainly have avoided being raped by staying in their appartment the rest of their lives (he actually makes this point!)

Of course women put themselves at risk if they take a lonely walk, half naked through crime infested neighbourhouds. But if women can't walk without the Hijaab in daily hours without risking their safety, something is wrong.

Not to speak in his defense or to be muslim bashing, BUT, isn't this view pretty much law in several Islamic countries ? (Iran, Pakistan,...) I do think this line of thought is horribly wrong, but this isn't just the problem of one lunatic, there are a whole lot of people trapped in the same 'paradigm'. Not that it's (all) Islam that's to blame, this line of thought was (is?) pretty common in the western world too...

The Australian mufti was immediately rebuked by a ton of muslims. I don't think there are that many muslims who follow his line of reasoning, but having such a person in a position of leadership is asking for trouble. I say sack him.