The 21st faction slot has to be occupied by "Rebels" doesn't it?
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A) Release next month. (with all the potential for gaps and bugs)
B) Release when 0.8 is polished. (likely to be several months down the road, at least)
The 21st faction slot has to be occupied by "Rebels" doesn't it?
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Which was released today....Originally Posted by Tanit
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polish it first!
Releasing it sooner can be a win situation for everybody. EB team will have an enormous base of playtesters, and we'll get to enjoy a newer version.
I can't think of a single reason why anybody would want to wait, but the vote has been a landslide anyway. I'll look forward to its release next month!![]()
Well if people want it polished, then they don't have to download it immediately and can wait for a later version.
The open beta should help speed the bug hunting process to that version anyway.
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Thx Fellas for the reply.... and based on the info I voted for next month.
My fear was a half-a***ed .8 version being thrown out to simply satisfy the members, yet have the entire thing be 2X more incomplete than .74v since u guys re-build the whole of EB for RTW 1.5v.
It won't be half-a***ed (?! what is that sixth letter?!)Originally Posted by NeoSpartan
. It's definitely as polished or more than 0.74. It's just not going to be totally polished and complete.
I voted to wait, but now seeing a) the huge support for a soon release and b) the good reasons to release it, I suppose I'll have to join the chorus of "release-it-now" fans. I haven't been able to play much EB (I installed BI a while back) but am looking forward to being able to and was admittedly scared at the idea of a mediocre .8 build just to satisfy the fans. However, as I understand it .8 is now in the playtesting stage, and it would be inefficient and dumb NOT to use the huge fanbase to speed up the bug-catching process. However, could someone tell us what factions promise to be most complete? I've wanted to play a Romani game for a while but in .7x they were still kinda incomplete. What factions are now almost fully developed (like KH is now) and what factions will still be kinda incomplete?
I would personally strongly advise against the .8 version being released early. I was a Beta Tester for quite a while, I know for a fact that a buggy game can thoroughly ruin one's gaming experience, a lot more than you would think.
Unless everyone is willing to go through a lot of frustration in getting rid of what may be quite a few CTD's, I would strongly suggest that the new release be delayed until it is quite stable.
Personally, I would prefer it if 0.8 was released before the Christmas holidays, because I doubt I will be able to play much after those. The remaining bugs I am quite willing to overlook so long as they aren't game-breaking.
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I remember having posted in this forum a few months ago that I'd bet that MTW2 would be released first then EB 0.8. Someone told me I would be losing that bet. I'm not so sure now. :P Anyways, next month for the reasons already stated.Originally Posted by Redigo
BLARGH!
I think we should listen to what EB members have to say. I would download 0.8 as soon as they upload it but do I really want it when it's unplayable. My first reaction was like "YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Then the second thought was that we should wait a little longer to have a more stable version.![]()
But 0.74 and 0.72 weren't ruined by bugs, we all enjoyed them immensely, just as we will with 0.8.Originally Posted by Zorba
This is exactly my thought. It all depends on the nature of the bugs or glitches.Originally Posted by Ludens
I voted a, but if the the bugs are overwhelming in number, I think it may ruin the experience for new gamers to EB. What could be done here is to STRONGLY emphasize that this version is an open beta and newcomers should download EB 7.4. I personally would be able to overlook some bugs (CTD, ect.).
I think I speak for most EBers when I say: A, A, A, ... We want it ASAP! Gimme gimme![]()
I would be nice if it could be out before M2TW.
Aks K
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Voted for A. Rationale: I enjoy the shit out of .74, I can't go back to RTR despite the 1.5 version. .74 has plenty of bugs but I still enjoy it. Release .8! Bring on the BUGS... won't hear a peap out of me.
Simple release it next month. Bugs and gaps aside it is a beta and it can always be patched. So after 0.8 we could always get a 0.8.1 and a 0.8.2, etc.
I'm not too concerned with bugs and the like. It is a beta after all.
In Pace Requiescat.
As has been said, bugtesting at a decent pace is what the community is good for; as long as the mod's reasonably playable such as was the case with .72 I'd say go ahead and release the early version. Those who want a more complete and bugfree version, such as myself, can wait, it can't be too long.
And three new factions? Very intriguing, I'd be interested in either how a new faction can be added or which old faction got the boot.
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...sooner, since it will take the testing-workload of your backs!
Yuezhi got the boot, I think, so that makes 3 factions.
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Yes definately release it sooner, its a win win both ways.
As for the 3 factions. I'm going to bet the house its saka rauka and 2 competeing iberian factions.![]()
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Hi I'm new here, I signed up to cast a vote for an earlier release.
Version 0.72 had a few bugs too but I didnt mind, I was just happy to have the latest build. Also, an earlier release will take the edge off for fans like me who are eagerly anticipating this excellent mod.
Yeah, but that`s 1 faction, plus the senate slot, equals 2, not three...Yuezhi got the boot, I think, so that makes 3 factions.
So another faction must have got the boot...
I think I might have just figured it out!
We have been told that the two Nomadic Factions will be interesting to play as.
Okay lets look at the ones we have: Sauromatae, Yuezhi and Pahlav
Okay yuezhi is getting the boot for Saka Rauka... and that leaves us with still 3 Nomadic factions.
I think Sauromatae got kicked...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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It probably did get "kicked". Sauromatae was always a little boring to play and I don't think they ever really did anything great during their lifespan.Originally Posted by CountArach
The way I see it there are two types of fans here:
1. Those who don't mind the bugs. These will of corse want to choose option A.
2. Those who want to play as bug-free version as possible. Ironically, these will also want to choose option A, because it means that the bug-free version (0.9?) will be ready much sooner, thanks to the public playtesting of the early-released 0.8.
I think Pahlav is considered an Eastern faction, not nomadic.Originally Posted by CountArach
Well Zorba said it was CTD's, that is a game ruiner, while the incompleteness and little bugs of 0.74 can be overlooked.Originally Posted by Dayve
"It's true that when it's looked at isolated, Rome II is a good game... but every time I sit down to play it, every battle, through every turn, I see how Rome I was better. Not unanimously, but ultimately." - Dr. Sane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eaBtzqqFA#t=1h15m33s
0.8 should be released early, and it may have some unpredicted good side effects. People keep clamoring for a release and want to know the secret things such as the new factions, and have been very... ehem.... aggressive in this, and it seems to have been getting at you guys recently, and understandably so. If a bunch of people download this, find there to be a bunch of CTD's, only a few of the people genuinely interested in helping in the beta will keep playing. However, the other people who were getting downright ugly about this whole situation will realize you guys are right and will go back to .74 satisfied with knowing all the secret stuff to 0.8.
So yes, my vote was for an early release ;)
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Ever the eternal optimist.Originally Posted by fallen851
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Damn! You are probably right...Originally Posted by Conqueror
Then who could have been removed? Getai?
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
as it is a beta, I think next month is good enough. Besides, you will find more bugs once the players start whining about them. Think about it.
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