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That would be the lagacy of post - Civil War politics.What part of the solution to slavery in the US would you call "solving things very well"? The KKK, cultural division, and continuing racial strife more than a century and a half later-- this is the legacy of the Civil War. War, as a rule, is messy, and creates more messes.
Much like what is going on in Iraq is not the result of the wonderful operation that took the nation, but the post war screwups that have plagued it.
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Not trying to be simplistic here, but you can't really have "post - Civil War politics" without the Civil War. To me, the two are not really distinguishable.Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles
I mean, that's like saying that babies have nothing to do with sex-- which is true. It's not the sex that causes the babies, but rather the aftermath, when the sperm travels up the canal to the egg, and then all of the events that happen between fertilization and birth, that causes babies. But would any of that had happened without the sex?
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It eradicated slavery, the problem, which was neatly solved.What part of the solution to slavery in the US would you call "solving things very well"? The KKK, cultural division, and continuing racial strife more than a century and a half later-- this is the legacy of the Civil War. War, as a rule, is messy, and creates more messes.
The mess afterwards was the fault of the democrats and their racist policies.
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"Wonderful Operation"?
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"Neatly Solved"?
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Without wars, then there would be many more countries in the world right now. Society would have thousands more languages, since the conqueres usually brought their language their conquered countries (Know that most languages in Europe are mutations of latin, which the roman legions brought, France had many more languages when Casaer invaded). And The USA as we know it wouldnt exist, because we couldnt force indians off their land (No wars remember?). True we would be technologically advanced more then we are now, but we would also be much more populated (War also brings Starvation, desieses, homelessness besides the death toll at the end of a battle).
Diaspora wouldnt happen. Jesus being executed on the cross wouldnt happen (Since the romans wouldnt be in Judea in the first place without conquering it). Islam wouldnt have spread as fast (As far as I know, Im not that knowledgable on that religion).
All in all, I think wars are part of nature and should happen. The world would be too fractured.
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Exactly. This is my opinion on war as well; it is necessary. But it is by no stretch of the imagination good; it is just part of a basic balancing act of society. Just like earthquakes.
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How are earthquakes in any way, shape, or form good?
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Zorba didn't imply that earthquakes are in any way good. He opined that war and earthquakes are alike in being necessary but in no way good.
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It was most certainly not the rightwingers that supported the Jim Crow laws, it was the democrat party- the direct ancestor of today's party - aka the 'leftwingers'.The Civil War has many of the same problems as the Second World War; mainly, the "rightwingers" still lived and thrived, as well as having more reason to hate Blacks than ever before.
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The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Way to completely ignore the rest of my post after that. Sheesh.
I doubt that, seeing as how many technologies have come about through war.True we would be technologically advanced more then we are now, but we would also be much more populated
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The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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[ Insert a: War
Insert b: The mess afterward]
If b occurs after a, a couldn't have been very neat, could it?
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