I protest!

[Crazed Rabbit]

Damn, man, you need to read a history book!

The Democrats of the Civil War era, and just about up to Franklin Roosevelt, were very conservative, pro state's rights people. They were most definitely what would today be considered rightwing. It wasn't until the era of the Depression that the parties pulled a 180.

So, yeah, the Democrats created the Jim Crow laws -- but they were not leftwing. In fact, they were closer to being pro-aristocratic/feudal.

You are in the wrong. They would not be considered rightwing today- you seem to be assuming pro-slavery is rightwing.

As it is, the poltical landscape has drastically changed since that time, making comparisons like yours useless. It is worth noting that the democrat party of th 1960s was heavily divided, with many still supporting segregation, and the democrat party at that time controlled the south because of their segregationist tendencies and history.

CR

[Reverend Joe]

You are in the wrong. They would not be considered rightwing today- you seem to be assuming pro-slavery is rightwing.

As it is, the poltical landscape has drastically changed since that time, making comparisons like yours useless. It is worth noting that the democrat party of th 1960s was heavily divided, with many still supporting segregation, and the democrat party at that time controlled the south because of their segregationist tendencies and history.

CR

I didn't say they were rightwing. I said Conservative.

When I say conservative, I refer to the older meaning of being opposed to change. The Democrats wished to keep the old institutions in place, and it was the Republicans -- the liberally-minded people -- who wanted to change them. The slavery debate was almost a sideline issue at first, but it became distinctly important after Lincoln brought it into the main focus.

And I know that the political landscape has changed, that's the point I was trying to make -- that your comparisons were useless... but you just said that... and... you say that I am wrong, because what I said earlier was... but you just said yourself... that you were right... what you said... what I said...


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