Unscripted AI follies

**Rob The Bastard** · 10-31-2006, 18:16

Not being the best general in the world, I do not want to face a "Chess Grandmaster" 9 star type AI in every battle... where my every move is noticed immeadiately, analysed as being a real redeployment of my troops (not just a feint) immeadiately and countered immeadiately.

The enemy generals ai should change depending on his rankings and vices, I would expect dumb or ineffective or non-existant counters from a "slobbering drunk inbred chinless wonder" type general.

Of course, I don't know if that is what we are seeing now or not... but I am willing to believe that the AI is as good as it can be made.

Humans are intelligent and do dumb things!... good ai should emulate that as well.

**screwtype** · 11-01-2006, 00:30

Originally Posted by Rob The Bastard

Not being the best general in the world, I do not want to face a "Chess Grandmaster" 9 star type AI in every battle... where my every move is noticed immeadiately, analysed as being a real redeployment of my troops (not just a feint) immeadiately and countered immeadiately.

The enemy generals ai should change depending on his rankings and vices, I would expect dumb or ineffective or non-existant counters from a "slobbering drunk inbred chinless wonder" type general.

Of course, I don't know if that is what we are seeing now or not... but I am willing to believe that the AI is as good as it can be made.

Humans are intelligent and do dumb things!... good ai should emulate that as well.

Yes I agree with that. You don't want to be facing a brilliant AI in every battle, because generals do vary considerably in skill, some of them are great, some mediocre and some incompetent.

It would be nice to think this is reflected to some degree in the game, with higher star generals being better opponents, but I have my doubts this will be the case.

The bottom line is that I want to be facing a competent opponent most of the time. If one occasionally has a battle where the AI does something incredibly stupid, or does nothing at all, that could be viewed not as a problem but as an accurate reflection of what could reasonably be expected to occur now and again in real life battles.

**Oaty** · 11-01-2006, 00:58

Name an A.I. that hasnt been exploited and dont mention chess as it's played on a 2D surface and has a limited number of moves. Plus there is a motive to owning the rights to the engine of a chess game and leasing it to multiple companies.

**ChewieTobbacca** · 11-01-2006, 01:21

The bugs tend to happen when there are massive amounts of missile units countering guys without missile units. Believe me, I've had the same problem with the AI sitting there getting into formation while I pelted them with missile units. However, if missile units aren't used in force, it seems the AI is more aggressive and able to do manuevering. at the same time, I've played certain battles repeatedly and found the AI to vary each game in what they do, which is great.

**ProudNerd** · 11-01-2006, 02:02

Originally Posted by ChewieTobbacca

The bugs tend to happen when there are massive amounts of missile units countering guys without missile units. Believe me, I've had the same problem with the AI sitting there getting into formation while I pelted them with missile units. However, if missile units aren't used in force, it seems the AI is more aggressive and able to do maneuvering. at the same time, I've played certain battles repeatedly and found the AI to vary each game in what they do, which is great.

That why i think you are stupid. A huge load of zweihanders, they simply stand there while I blasted them with all my cannons and scots guard crushing the entire unit without them moving an inch. Like what the other person said they also seem to go left allot and stand there till you've killed allot of their troops..it just seems predictable.I fully agree about the stars etc making a difference in actual tactics and smartness instead of just morale it would be pretty amusing t see a drunk general try to command an army :D

**Spino** · 11-01-2006, 19:53

Originally Posted by ProudNerd

That why i think you are stupid. A huge load of zweihanders, they simply stand there while I blasted them with all my cannons and scots guard crushing the entire unit without them moving an inch. Like what the other person said they also seem to go left allot and stand there till you've killed allot of their troops..it just seems predictable.I fully agree about the stars etc making a difference in actual tactics and smartness instead of just morale it would be pretty amusing t see a drunk general try to command an army :D

Insulting other Org members is a surefire way to get yourself a warning and a temporary ban from this forum.

The developers have already said that the AI in the demo you are referring to does NOT reflect the AI in the release version or the that of the patch scheduled to be released after the game hits the shelves.

**ProudNerd** · 11-02-2006, 15:25

Originally Posted by Spino

Insulting other Org members is a surefire way to get yourself a warning and a temporary ban from this forum.

The developers have already said that the AI in the demo you are referring to does NOT reflect the AI in the release version or the that of the patch scheduled to be released after the game hits the shelves.

Did you go out of your way to get me warned? Its obvious that the "You" is a typo of "It" i have bad eyesight and make allot of typing errors and i didn't notice I had typed the wrong word until i got a totally unexpected warning about it. I had no intention of insulting anyone in thsi thread and was trying to say the AI was stupid not a user. It was an honest misteak.