Quote Originally Posted by fallen851
the position that would allow the mod to be done in the least amount of time. Done.[/B]
Whatever the arguments are you can put forward to make a point, there is one specific future about this particular mod that you've got to keep in mind: it's still a beta.

To all those who didn't quite catch the meaning of the 2 phrases above: this means that the release date for the next beta version doesn't matter 'a pair of dingo's kidneys', to paraphrase the words of a certain F. Prefect. (Fun thing though that Kull metioned a house getting knocked over, that's exactly what those words were about.) If there still is someone who hasn't yet realised this: it's not some beta version but EB 1.0 that matters, after all.

We therefore may indeed compare the modding to one particular stage of some bussiness concept, that, which you already got by reading the two words, of a concept. You, fallen851, are probably far more dyed through the wool than I am, especially since I'm still attending school, but let me say you this: how often has the process in which some business concept was turned into reality not been delayed by the unexpected? One infamous example of this is the Dutch government project of the 'Betuwelijn', a railway from the port of Rotterdam to Germany, dating as far back as the 80's and still not yet completed. I, for one, trust the EB team to take less time to complete their 1.0 build than that.

And may I add to this that we can't - while being both serious and fair about it - judge yet whether the release of 1.0 is actually delayed or not? Those side substractions, as you call them in different terms, may well have been a key part of the final 1.0 version. Haven't we repeatedly witnessed an EB member stating that all the placeholders would be gone by 1.0? Judging from what EB members actually stated recently, we may even conclude that this, soon (at least, I hope so), to be expected 0.8 build is more polished, nearer to the final 1.0 stage than was to be expected before. That means that whatever 'side' work has gone into 0.8 eventually would have gone into 1.0 anyway if it hadn't been included with 0.8.

So here we are then: your critisism, although probably not ill intentioned, and probably even meant to help the EB mod forward, is at least a bit rash. If you were simply concerned about why it takes so long to release the next version, you could simply have added a few lines in the release date thread, (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=71121), like this: 'Now I come to speak of it, do you guys have an actual release date in mind for 1.0? I'm curious about this since, at least to me, it seems as if the project is taking quite a while to get into it's final stage - and I'm eagerly awaiting 1.0.' Maybe you consider such lines to be a bit too nice, perhaps you would prefer something like this: 'Seeing that 0.8 took so long to develop, and I want to play 1.0 before I have bitten my fingers off for waiting so long, I'd like a hint on the 1.0 release date.' You could then copy Dayve's attitude of blaming Teleklos after such a post, and you may want to add a disclaimer: 'No offence meant, I'm just curious about that 1.0 release date'.

Call me an irritating ignorant little squirt, whatever you like... But to adress your words as mentioned on top of this post: maybe 1.0 would have been out far sooner, if the team doesn't have to adress such threads as this. Disclaimer: no offence meant...

Have a nice day,