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    Watching Sasaki in the G2 game, I got to wondering if a "white noise" approach might work for the mafia.

    (btw, I don't think he was in that game, but we'll see)

    White Noise would be lots of postings, suggestions of suspicion etc. in several directions; couple with lots of argument when people say no way.

    Goal would be to numb and confuse.

    Workable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    Watching Sasaki in the G2 game, I got to wondering if a "white noise" approach might work for the mafia.

    (btw, I don't think he was in that game, but we'll see)

    White Noise would be lots of postings, suggestions of suspicion etc. in several directions; couple with lots of argument when people say no way.

    Goal would be to numb and confuse.

    Workable?
    I think as I said in GF2; the need for new methods is inevitable for winning a game of mafia; certainly if the same players play all games.
    A method that worked in one game will not work in another as the players have all experienced it. Mafia today and that goes for all roles, need to be innovative and come up with new ways to defeat suspicion or getting lynched.

    When we finally reach the stage of no one believing anyone, the game will become a game without skill, where random is the key word.
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    I'd just like to say that, while most mafia strategies will evolve, one of them will not.

    Communication between you and your fellow mafiosi is absolutely essential.

    In Godfather 2, Myrddraal, Csar, and I exchanged manymanymany PMs, talked constantly in the chat as well as MSN, but it still wasn't enough. I believe that had there been more communication, a mafia victory would have happened. So if you are really committed to killing the town, you need to talk constantly.
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    I think the big mistake the mafia make is coordinating too much in their efforts. It becomes a "found one you've found them all" thing. This happened in Cosa Nuova when Sigurd noticed that the voting patterns pointed to Xiahou, and in TGF2 it became pretty clear that Csar was guilty from the way he'd been interacting with GH and Myrd...they at least had an excuse for acting together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    I think the big mistake the mafia make is coordinating too much in their efforts. It becomes a "found one you've found them all" thing. This happened in Cosa Nuova when Sigurd noticed that the voting patterns pointed to Xiahou, and in TGF2 it became pretty clear that Csar was guilty from the way he'd been interacting with GH and Myrd...they at least had an excuse for acting together.
    I think you made my point.

    After I saw Csar voting Sigurd after I posted that ridiculous PM, I slapped myself for not talking with him first. Because eventually, I think, that's what got him lynched.
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    I agree with General Hankerchief.

    Not only must your killing strategy be coordinated, but your overall strategy for postings and votings as well. ANY of these elements can come back to bite you in the posterior, and there is always someone who is tracking one or more of these.

    The only means to do this, of course, is frequent comms. Be careful of PM's on the site, however, since those can be monitored as well.
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