Impresions on the new demo!(Spanish vs Aztecs)

[Basilios II Voulgaroktonos]

I got the new demo just today in the early morning and i want to say that the battle of otumba was interesting enough because the Spanish have the strength and the armaments but the Aztecs have a very good morale to counter against that!!

I would like to know which were your impresions of the battle?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Did you preorder through amazon? I and many others still haven't had the email confirmation yet.

[Quid]

Meh, I also pre-ordered through amazon and have not yet received anything. Neither the confirmation nor the email telling me that I am entitled to the goods...

Quid

[Dave1984]

I've pre-ordered and had confirmation but haven't seen any sign of any demo.

[Basilios II Voulgaroktonos]

Guys i have pre-ordered from gpstore in Australia the Collector's edition!And they have sent me the confirmation this morning

[Basilios II Voulgaroktonos]

But you have to hurry because the demo is available only for 24th and 25th of Octomber!!!Thats what i saw in the link of downloading the demo...

[Pius]

I got the new demo just today in the early morning and i want to say that the battle of otumba was interesting enough because the Spanish have the strength and the armaments but the Aztecs have a very good morale to counter against that!!

I would like to know which were your impresions of the battle?

You wouldn't like to tell us YOUR impression, since you've got the demo, and the rest of us don't?

[hoom]

Readme is dated the 20th & does not mention SSE2.

- Celeron 1.7GHz Pentium 4® (1700MHz) or equivalent AMD® processor.

Original SE demo readme:

- Celeron 1.5GHz Pentium 4® (1500MHz) or equivalent AMD®
processor. The processor must support SSE2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2

CPU has gone up though...

Also the broken crossfire note has been removed.

[Zimfan40]

I preordered from Amazon and too, but with no word of the demo. But then, a week later, despite sending an order confirmation, they have yet to take the money from my checking account, so I guess I've gotten as much as I've given them so far!

[TheImp]

Would be nice to have some screenies of Spanish vs Astecs. Thanks.

[Luiscalejo]

cool

[Styles]

Hi all,

I'm not new to the org but this is the first time I post something :)

My impression on the second demo is far better than with the first one.
It seems to be more balanced than the first demo as far as I can judge this because of the scripted battles.

After playing a few Pavia battles it looks like they have improved a lot since the first demo came out. The French cav. has now more problems against those Landsknechts and the battle took far longer (except the Generals Bodyguards they fought very long but could not breach the Landsknechts formation).
Arquebusiers did not much damage against infantrie but a lot against the French Knights they killed 16 Gandarmes in two volleys but only two in three volleys against the Generals Bodyguard and 6 in 4 volleys against the Crossbows.

In the battle of Agincourt the archers killed a lot more Frenchis than in the first demo. The French Generals Bodyguard run over my dismounted knights and killed almost all knights in the first charge.

The first time I played the Battle of Otumba I lost against the masses of natives. The Spanisch Knights did a great job but they are not very strong and get easely killed by light and heavy infantrie.
The second time I won with a little bit of luck. My knights did a great Job in killing the Generals and then the Azteks started to withdraw from battle.

[Phil17]

Wow the demo sounds good, when is it official release? the demo that is. also the new one with the aztecs.

[CaesarAugustus]

So does anyone have screens with Aztecs in them???

[hoom]

I'm gonna keep you all guessing with them.

But yeah, 3 units of heavy european cav vs lots of sword/missile infantry = much slaughter.
But then, its one small army vs 4 bigger armies so its still a fairly close run thing.

[Incongruous]

Does anyone even know where they are posting?

[ProudNerd]

That battle was amazingly hard and the only reason I won was because of an AI glitch i had 37 musketeers 140 mercs and a bloody Cortez all by himself, every one of his bodyguards had been killed

The Aztecs had allot of men left something like 300 on the field mostly jag warriors and bodyguards with some arrow warriors too. Every bit of my army besides the above had routed almost all had been killed I kept the mercs back and fired at the arrows with the musketeers who I could hear were hitting almost every single shot i was zoomed close to the Aztecs and almost every bullet was hitting an Aztec but they just stood there under fire so I left them alone and instead fired at the bodyguard nearby who as also in range and I slowly popped each of his guards without him moving and finally he fell, that was their last chief I then fired at the arrow warriors that routed quickly but inflicted another 7 casualties on my brave musketeers but routed fast then at the jags who still didn’t move and were all slaughtered as were the other Aztecs that were there, cant remember all that well since it was last night but yeah the AI army just stood there while I pegged what was left of them with musketeers still the battle was heaps of fun and it looks amazing even on my sempy Musketeers are also the best unit in a TW game they look and sound so awesome and are just heaps of fun to use :D especially with surround sound and a big sub like I have :D




As you can see i would have been owned

Notice in the second picture the entire conquistador unit was killed but EVERY ONE OF THEM was healed :S but for some units almost none were. What decides who gets revived and who doesn’t besides the virtues that increase the chances of casualties recovering from heir wounds? What decides it for certain units? See also the amount of kills one of the musketeer units got that was the one that won me the battle.

[Ituralde]

To pick up on something I have mentioned earlier and still haven't got any clue what it could mean:

Enemies Killed: 1558 (330)

Casualties Sustained: 40 (1)

Does anybody know what those numbers in parenthesis (spelling ?) mean?

[Perplexed]

To pick up on something I have mentioned earlier and still haven't got any clue what it could mean:

Enemies Killed: 1558 (330)

Casualties Sustained: 40 (1)

Does anybody know what those numbers in parenthesis (spelling ?) mean?

Isn't it prisoners taken?

[ProudNerd]

Isn't it prisoners taken?

no there another column fr that. Also there no options for executing prisioners in battle. Why isn't this there i always kill of th prisoners in mtw if i think i'm going to lose.

[Lusted]

I don't think you can kill the prsioners as its just a demo.

Some pics from a Pavia custom battle. Me(England) and HRE v Spain and France. You can really notice the imporved ai in 2 v2 battles as Spain and France mixed their troops together to create a battle line, and even when i managed to divide them the 2 forces mixed to an extent in the 2 armies they made. The ai French also did some nice flanking manouvers with its general. This was a very tough battle, with it ending up being a contest between who could wear down the other side first. For the key part of the battle all i could do was sit and watch. I marched my army out to the clear area alongside the French And Spanish starting position, and began a missile duel before having to advance and engage because of cannon fire.

Early moments of the engagement.



More intense combat. By this time my HRE ally had engaged the other enemy force.



Overview of the battle. I'd just punched a hole in the enemys line, near where the HRE troops are. The French general is massacering some archers i put on the flank.



Tense fighting at the left flank of my line. The HRE general had just been killed.



Fighting in the middle part of my line. The Spanish general was killed not long after this.



The battle nears its end. For a long time the odds had been against me and my ally due to early casualties inflicted by the cannons, but by now things were going our way.



Dead bodies litter the area my army had been fighting on.




The results. Pic also shows the bloodied English general.