About the Turks starting position

[eefums]

Does anyone else think that the Turks kind of have it a little to easy? This is assuming that the rebel armies are going to be a joke like they were in RTW, however if you look at the released campaign map closely you can see two things..

1. Poland ALWAYS expands east from what I've seen, and it'd probably be in their best intrest to attack Russia due to they'll be right against each other.

2. This means that you can get like 5-6 provinces right off the bat, and you can expand south until you're met by Egypt, not to mention the 3 rebel towns in your territory

Me and a friend of mine kind of thought this would be a little strong of a start, what do you guys think?

[Kavhan Isbul]

I think it is a good thing to have one faction start at an easier position. It is a bit early to say whether the Turks have it easy or not. If the Byzantines have superior commanders and better troops as they did in MTW, then an easy start for the Turks may not be so easy, especially since this time the Byzantines have less territories to manage and might be able to throw everything at the Turks. We also know little or nothing about the potential strength of Crusades and the Golden Horde (plus the Timurids). I am pointing this out to show that they might be potential threads to the Turks that are not necessarily evident on the campaign map in the first turn.

[Woozie]

Yeah, the Turks look like they have it easy from the start but they will get it harder in the late game with the Golden Horde and Timurids.

Like Isbul said, if Byzantium has good commanders it might not be all that easy at the start.

Egypt has an easier start position IMO. That's why I'm going to play them though, alot of choices to make.

[eefums]

Both good points gradually making me feel stupid..but don't the Timurids and the Golden Horde come in later years?

[Darth Nihilus]

I agree about the easy looking start for the Turks. But the Egyptians start looks like a cakewalk though.

[Zenicetus]

I agree about the easy looking start for the Turks. But the Egyptians start looks like a cakewalk though.

Maybe, but I'll bet the surrounding rebel desert provinces are resource-poor. They'll have Crusaders and the Turks to deal with if they expand into the Holy Lands, since so many factions will have that area as a target. They have distance working against them, if they try to expand to the west and take on the Moors. That's a loooooong supply/reinforcement line. You can cross six provinces in western continental Europe in the time it takes just to move an army across Tripoli. I remember what a pain it was in RTW, to move armies around down there.

It's also a slow expansion and line of reinforcement if they try to jump across the Med with sea invasions. Since the only easy expansion is up across the eastern Med and the Holy Lands, I'm not so sure it's a cakewalk.

Well, it's all just guesswork until we see how the campaign game has been balanced. Number of ports, resources, timing of events like Crusades, Jihads, Mongol invasions etc. will be a big factor in how easy any faction is.