http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=13049860
Basicly you are paying for spyware and ingame adds, no BF2142 for me. For you as well I hope, this goes too far.
http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=13049860
Basicly you are paying for spyware and ingame adds, no BF2142 for me. For you as well I hope, this goes too far.
Well, that solves that. I was actually thinking of buying the full version, but with this ... no way, no way in hell.
Tsk, tsk, y'all have anything to hide ? It's for your own good, really, think of all the targeted advertising you'll get, ads tailored to your personal tastes and interests, what's wrong with that ?
Oh, and rest assured that all your information is strictly confidential, between EA and its designated business partners, and we'll never misuse it or anything. No, sirree.
Therapy helps, but screaming obscenities is cheaper.
Why do you hate freedom?
I'd like to see the spyware claim substantiated somewhere else before I buy into that one.
However, the game will definitely have streaming ads that will be constantly downloading whether you want them to or not. For me, that's reason enough to stay away. In principle, I don't mind the concept of static ads in games where they make sense- ie: unobstrusive billboards in a racing game or around the inside of an arena in a sports game.... But what really irritates me is the fact that, obviously, the publisher is raking in money by putting ads into a game that I'm paying to play.
Do these ads make the games cheaper/free for me to buy? Hell no. Do these ads make a $50 game play like a $60 one? Nope. And I'm just talking about "static" in-game ads... I think that "streaming" in-game ads just goes beyond the pale.
"Don't believe everything you read online."
-Abraham Lincoln
In-game ads sound incredibly annoying and cheesy but they would not affect my purchase of the game. However the built in spyware reeeaaallly pisses me off. EA can go violate itself with a fat rusty pipe....
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What a pity, I enjoyed the demo and was really looking forward to picking this one up. With this move EA has certainly confirmed the notion that it is the Great Satan of video game companies.
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"Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?" - Theodore Roosevelt
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Though Adrian did a brilliant job of defending the great man that is Hugo Chavez, I decided to post this anyway.. - JAG (who else?)
Thanks for posting this thread, Fragony.
EA should be sued up the wazoo for this.
So should Starforce and all other upcoming integrated spyware/malware being shovelled onto game discs.
No wonder PC gaming is mostly-dead.
Great, another game publisher signed a deal with IGA Worldwide, the company that makes the spyware in BF 2142....
Codemasters joins the Axis of Evil!!!![]()
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=10245
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Big money at work here folks, $17 million worth...
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...php?story=9961
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Q&A with the CEO of IGA...
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=11300
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The good news is that the gaming community's reaction to this has been positively explosive and overwhelmingly negative. EA had to lock up its UK BF2142 forums because of the outcry.
"Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?" - Theodore Roosevelt
Idealism is masturbation, but unlike real masturbation idealism actually makes one blind. - Fragony
Though Adrian did a brilliant job of defending the great man that is Hugo Chavez, I decided to post this anyway.. - JAG (who else?)
Well I think Starforce has seen the last of it's days anyway, after that little Gal Civ 2 mess, their main costumer Ubi decidedly dropped the product.
Thanks for the info Spino. That last article you posted was the info I was looking for. So they collect personal info like your age, IP address and when you play so that they can better target you with ads. I guess they'd better lump me in with that so-called "vocal minority" who thinks that's absolutely outrageous.![]()
Here I thought my $50 a game was paying for "development costs". Honestly, if they were giving away the games for free it'd be at least understandable to cram them with spyware and ads to generate revenue- but we're already shelling out our hard earned cash to buy these.He particularly commented: "If gamers still want to have a high amount of good quality titles year in and year out, there needs to be alternate revenue streams" for next-gen gaming - IGA clearly sees in-game advertising as a notable example of this.
I refuse to pay full price for a game that's going to make money off of me by collecting personal information and barraging me with advertising.
Last edited by Xiahou; 10-18-2006 at 06:19.
"Don't believe everything you read online."
-Abraham Lincoln
See, this is kind of a reason why internet piracy of everything under the sun is such a popular thing.
...and increasingly morally justifiable day by day, which is kind of sad in and of itself. A paying customer got a worse product than that of a torrent downloader's.
I wish there are more indie game developers like Mount&Blade's Taleworlds coming up; it's always the indies that save the day when mainstream companies have gone mad. I was gleefully happy to pay 15$ or so to play the full game; I felt cheated when I paid some other games out of the bargain bin.
I hope the EU is going to sue the pants off of them....
They're supposed to care about privacy damnit !
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But are the people who actually have to put up with the adds going to see any savings because of this? I doubt it."Advertising in games generates additional revenue that publishers can offset against product development costs,"
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Lol, can we say overeaction...
You guys need to chill out a bit. Its not like theres not 1000 other programs that take your info already. Trust me, theres a whole lot better reasons not to get this game than this. :P
But for how many of those programs do you dish out 50$?Originally Posted by Monarch
It's fine with me, if they charge less ... but to charge the same, and still put their customers through such an annoying process is too much.
With this move, I have a feeling that the game will not sell very well.
You guys are upset...
I pre-ordered.![]()
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I hope NFS Carbon doesn't have spyware...
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Did you pay in full? If it was just the $5 EB deposit, you can tell them to stick it in their ear if they won't refund it.Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
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"Don't believe everything you read online."
-Abraham Lincoln
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=37926
Yep... It's true...Battlefield 2142 is starting to show up in stores left and right, and some early birds who managed to get their hands on a retail copy. Inside the box a slip of paper warns people that BF2142 will install monitoring software which reports "anonymous" information, such as IP and surfing habits, back to advertising companies in order to generate in-game ads in line with your possible purchasing interests. The flyer does say if you do not wish this to happen, to not install the game on an internet connected computer, which seems quite silly for a online multiplayer title.![]()
Now, at first I was really looking forward to getting this game, seeing how enjoyable BF2 was for a long time (though it started to get repetitive like all games, it took much longer). But over the past month, my optimism about BF: 2142 lessened.
The screenshots looked bland to be honest, and when I played the demo (aside from it crashing incredibly often) I was unimpressed by the graphics. it looked like a reskinned BF2 to be honest. Not much improvement, plus it was bland (stop making backgrounds in north africa/middle east for God's sake, I want to see grass!).
The gameplay was almost identical too, it brought really nothing new.
But still I thought, the other levels could look better, and maybe the full version would show expanded gameplay.
Now this...
Now, I'm one of those people who thinks all those whiners about in game ads should suck it up. Ads are a part of life ok? Are you not going to drive because of billboards?
But this is frankly the most malicious thing ever by a game. Forget CD keys and registration/activation, they actually put spyware in your computer...
I just hope the demo didn't do the same...
Originally Posted by Spino
Actually, Codemasters joined the Axis of Evil a very long time ago when they started putting Starforce into their games like Soldiers.
It was a $10 deposit, so if I don't pick it up/get a refund it isn't a total loss.
I'll wait and watch first, though...![]()
Enough of a back lash and who knows...
If the spyware isn't bad enough, the fact that you seen any info on this until you buy the game is just bad.
That's can't be legal.
My first time in the Arena because the thread title was so intriguing: EA, outdoing itself? No way. However, I must admit that this tops even the worst of stories I've heard about EA.
I had a friend who relocated his family, worked for two weeks for them, and quit even before he received his first paycheck because the morale and environment were so bad. With them pulling things like this, I now understand why... who are the programmers who say, "Uh, sure, we'll put a load of spyware into a video game, sounds like fun." I don't get it.
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Gasp.
Ja mata
TosaInu
Well, over reaction or not I was on the fence about getting this new version of Battlefield simply because I did not personally find it to be all that much better than BF2 (of course you need to place that statement in the context that I think BF2 is absolutely fantastic)...
There are some many good games coming out over the next month that I am not gasping for something new right now, I was on the fence about getting it and now boom, this... If I was dead set on the game it would not bother me that much, but when I feel this way I don't know, I think it just tips the balance against getting it.
It could be good for BF2142 in one way, only the most dedicated fans will be likely to pick it up which may in turn improve the quality of the gameplay on the servers...
I might just keep playing BF2, and start play Black Hawk Down again, and mabye RO, and forget about this. Like Hell I want Spyware on my comp. got over 1400,don't need anymore.. BF2, I'm here to stay, BHD and RO, here I come, BF2142, forget ya :-)
Well it isn't that bad after all
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