Swedish Pre-order "Mistake"

[Faenaris]

Apparantly, somebody in Sweden already has his copy of M2TW.

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...art=41&stop=60

He has posted some screenshots and will post more (see the bottom of the page). Apparantly, 2 copies were shipped before the Distributor realised that he shouldn't be doing that. Looks like someone is gonna get the hammer on the head.

I'm happy though. This means that M2TW will be released on the 10th in Europe. Woohoow!

[Dave1984]

So presumably this means copies are now at European suppliers?

[LadyAnn]

It is already made around to various Black market in Asia.... Just kidding!

Anniep

[hoetje]

OMG WHAT A LUCKY GUY!

[TheImp]

The countdown is 7 days now, so i guess european suppliers have started to receive copies. Cheers to the lucky guy anyway!

[alpaca]

Heh if I was him it'd be on ebay by now and being sold for at least 100 Euros ;)

[LadyAnn]

Being first to report a bug is priceless! :D

Anniep

[Puzz3D]

Being first to report a bug is priceless!

and that's when you begin wishing the game was priced less.

[alpaca]

Being first to report a bug is priceless! :D

Anniep

Nonsense, my price for reporting a bug is one buck

[LadyAnn]

Nah, you will be too happy to report the bug that you would forget to name your price.

It is 40 bucks preordered through Frys.com. I didn't buy RTW/BI, so the money remains :)

Anniep

[Faenaris]

Being first to report a bug is priceless! :D

Anniep

and that's when you begin wishing the game was priced less.

Pure gold!

[satchef1]

i wonder if my local games shop has their copies yet? they always start selling stuff as soon as its in...

[Aracnid]

Bugger, I doubt Amazon will be that silly and send it off early, god that is annoying!

[Basileus]

hehe lucky dude

[parcelt]

well? is this lucky guy at least providing any feedback to us, the miserable have-nots?

[Lusted]

Yes, he's posted lots of screenshots in the thrad, and been answering questions. He's said the battle ai is

The AI is great ive had some realy hard battles witch i would have won easy on RTW. They flank the move archers from the wall when you get closer with you units. All in all they are you bloody smart now

I think atm he is busy playing the game and enjoying himself, and will likely give more feedback tomorrow.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

dumb question, but I ask anyhow. Where has he been posting at,just wondering??

[Lusted]

www.totalwarforums.com

[Furious Mental]

Apparently the ability to dismount cavalry before a battle, which I had thought was in the game all along, is out. Lame. Very, very, very lame.

[edyzmedieval]

Lucky doog... I want M2TW too.

[Puzz3D]

Apparently the ability to dismount cavalry before a battle, which I had thought was in the game all along, is out. Lame. Very, very, very lame.

CA said they make their game conform to popular conception rather than historical actuality.

[Ferret]

CA said they make their game conform to popular conception rather than historical actuality.

Yeah but everyone does like dis-mountng cav. before battles so they haven't made it to popular conception or historical actuality.

Does anyone know whether Amazon ships early?

[Furious Mental]

Indeed. Personally I am not familiar with this popular conception that dismounted cavalry were in fact infantry with the word "dismounted" in front of their name. Such a conception seems unlikely to be popular except possibly among those unfamiliar with the English language because it entails a complete reversal of the plain meaning of the word "dismounted". In fact what CA have done is simply not bothered to make a meaningful effort beyond naming some units one thing and not another. That's just disappointing I'm afraid.

[Puzz3D]

Yeah but everyone does like dis-mountng cav. before battles so they haven't made it to popular conception or historical actuality.

I doubt the majority of people who play the game think dismounted knights fight better than mounted knights. CA does make decisions on the basis of what they ascertain to be the popular conception, and this conception is largely shaped by movies. Also, the people within CA who advocate historical accuracy and realism has steadily lost influence over the years. Just prior to the release of RTW, CA said that historical accuracy and realism are not their focus. This was their reason for why hoplites didn't use overhand spears, Egyptians had chariots and the game had exploding projectiles.

[Brutus]

Did anyone notice this?
Seems there still are "years" in the game.

[Furious Mental]

"I doubt the majority of people who play the game think dismounted knights fight better than mounted knights. "

It might not be obvious to people in field battles but nonetheless it should be intuitive to anyone that in, for example, a siege situation, dismounted knights may be more useful because horses cannot ride up to the battlements. In any case it is not that CA has chosen not to include small units of heavily armoured foot soldiers and such. Rather it has simply chosen not to bother including under the rubric of an ability to dismount cavalry before a battle. That is not a result of a decision to promote a particular type of gameplay to conform to popular concepts. That is a result of a decision not to bother doing something properly.

[alpaca]

I think their problem there was that the RTW engine treated the horse and the rider as one entity, which means they can't be split. This is also the reason why rider and horse always die at the same time by the way.
So my guess is that it would have entailed a re-code of quite a large part of the engine, so they delayed it to see if they'll have time for it towards the end of the development period, and then they saw they hadn't and stuffed it...

[CBR]

I think their problem there was that the RTW engine treated the horse and the rider as one entity, which means they can't be split. This is also the reason why rider and horse always die at the same time by the way.

It was the same in MTW but they figured it out then.


CBR

[alpaca]

Well maybe it'll come in an expansion pack...
They could have figured it out but as I said they probably didn't think it'd add enough to the game compared to what they were working on.

[x-dANGEr]

Talk about hype.. (How much they advertised the "dismounting" feature)